Discussion in 'Montreal Canadiens' started by Habernack, Jan 14, 2014.
Yea $4m is pushing it. A cap hit of around $5m would be great.
Yeah, $4m is out the window. $5 would be a discount. I have my fingers crossed for $5.5, slightly less than what his current hit is. For 2 years ideally.
I wouldn't mind him doing a year-by-year renewal thing like Lidstrom was doing towards the end of his career, either. I think Markov is pretty much a Hab for however long he wants to be one.
I hope we can get something done with Marky, 2 years would be fantastic
I am hoping for a 3 year 15 M contract because there's no suitable replacement for him anytime soon?
The 'general' wants retire here, he'll likely give a discount but for longer term. I can't see 2 years deal. Maybe 4 @ 20 ?
4mil is decent for Markov? That would be quite the hometown discount. If he asks that money, Bergie better sign him asap. Markov would easily make way more than that as an UFA.
Considering how much Gonchar got from Dallas in the summer (5 million) I think if Markov signs for 2 years he'll get 5.5 million, if it's 3 years make it 5 million.
Markov is a fair bit better than Gonchar, and a lot younger.
Never argued that but that would probably be his best comparaison in terms of contract situation. He's worth way more than Gonchar but how much of a discount is he willing to take.
Not sure if it would, really. I guess it depends on whether Bergevin is more interested in a hierarchial approach to the payroll or whether just having a little bit extra cap room would make enough of a difference in his budget to be more generous? I would expect the former.
And I would expect Bergevin to argue that Subban is not significantly better than Markov (in his eyes - based on stats, icetime, utilization, stuff like that - all BS of course). So a "fair price" on Markov would seem more likely to me to hurt the Subban negotiations, if anything, if there was any connecting effect at all, anyway.
Go ahead and surprise me Bergie, I double dog dare you.
Firing his agent, and saving himself the commision he would have paid out to Meehan is a telling sign....
2-3 yrs around 5M should do it!!
I'm okay with some of those higher values like $18M/3yrs or $22M/4yrs. If Markov is willing to take a discount on those numbers, great, but I don't see the negotiations being particularly difficult, and I wouldn't start off trying to bargain him down in any way.
I'm guessing he's probably going to want to pocket whatever the commissionable amount might have been. He's cutting the middleman but he doesn't have to leave the middleman's money on the table either since he is undertaking the burden of negotiation on his own. I'm sure he can get a contracts lawyer at an hourly rate just to vet the key clauses. He has more than enough precedents he can get from friends around the league, to get a sense of what current market terms look like.
Maybe. I'd be down for 2 years 10 million
Markov is reportedly asking for a 4-year deal, as confirmed by Mathieu Dandeneault last week.
4 years contract is alright if the money is in the 4M range.
If anyone thinks he's getting under 6 million per year and under 3 years term hasn't been paying attention to any of the contracts Bergevin has signed.
They've all been at minimum a year longer than they should be (besides Price, was Pacioretty signed by Gauthier?) and at least market value or a bit more.
My guess is 3 years 18 million and a NTC.
Gauthier signed Gorges and Bergevin signed Pacioretty.
2 years... maybe, and I say maybe 3 years if we get a real discount.
So Bergevin signed Pacioretty and Price to 6 year deals which is a good length (I prefer 5 years max, but that's just me)
But he signed Desharnais, Drewiski, Briere, Emelin, Bouillon etc to contracts that are at least or more than market value and for longer terms than he should have. Considering Bouillon was multiple one year deals doesn't change the fact he shouldn't have been re-signed to begin with so technically it is one year longer than he should have been
The point I made still stands that Bergevin does not sign players for what we usually feel is appropriate term or dollars.
I have the same feeling that Markov contract will get done pretty fast. Except Subban case , I think MB is pretty quick on this regard if he wants the player. Markov dropping his agent to save some money is also a sign that he's quite confident to get it done by himself.
Get it done and let him retire as a Habs.
He's got to know he could make a fortune, comparatively, if he choose to go home and play in the KHL.He's be one of that league's poster boys.
Sign him and let him retire a Hab.He's earned it big time
Key to the city.
I'd give him 4 years so he takes a bit of a hometown discount but gets stability.
5-5-4-4 $4.5m cap hit and everyone is happy.
I'd love that, but are those numbers do-able with the new CBA? I know there's a % limit on dollar difference between first and last years, but I don't remember what it is.