Marian Hossa has played his last game

Ivo

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What he said is that he will not play again due to the allergy and he is moving back to Slovakia with his family. But, he also said that he cannot officially retire until his contract runs out - when they asked him whether he is going to work for the Blackhawks in another capacity, he said this is not possible because he still has a contract as a player. He also said that his contract may be traded to another team, or he will be placed on long-term injured list.
 

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Actually, according to that article he did retire. Translation:

"I won't play hockey again. I still have a valid contract with Chicago for three more years, but my health is a priority and my health won't allow me to return.
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"NHL leadership sent me to see a specialist in Minnesota prior to this season who confirmed that I could no longer play while taking this medication. My health is a priority and I don't want it to regress to the state from the last few seasons."

"We will see how the club will deal with this situation. Perhaps they will trade my contract into a different club, I can't say right now. Or I will stay on the list of injured players."

"My daughter starts school next year, so we had to make a decision. We will live in Slovakia."
 

Ivo

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Actually, according to that article he did retire. Translation:

"I won't play hockey again. I still have a valid contract with Chicago for three more years, but my health is a priority and my health won't allow me to return.
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"NHL leadership sent me to see a specialist in Minnesota prior to this season who confirmed that I could no longer play while taking this medication. My health is a priority and I don't want it to regress to the state from the last few seasons."

"We will see how the club will deal with this situation. Perhaps they will trade my contract into a different club, I can't say right now. Or I will stay on the list of injured players."

"My daughter starts school next year, so we had to make a decision. We will live in Slovakia."

The way I read it, he didn't officially retire - that is, he did not terminate his contract. He simply said he will not play anymore, which is something everyone already knew anyway. If he officially retired, his contract would be terminated and this would have very negative consequences for the Hawks' salary cap.
 
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chethejet

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It is a sham in a sense he can quit but not retire. LTIR has been an issue with allowing teams the benefit of in season flexibility while the player is basically done. I think the league should not allow a continued benefit for anyone who simply can't play again. In this case, the Hawks did circumvent the contractual revision and that has to be addressed. It was a joke the Prongers, Horton's, Hossa's stay on that list for years with no chance of playing again.
 

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If player spends 83* consecutive games on IR, the player must be evaluated by neutral doctor. If the doctor agrees that player is not able to return, the contract would be automatically recaptured. If player has rising salary through his contract, the team will get small benefit.

* Deliberately one game over full regular season so the break will be a year calendar wise - we've seen several times where player has legitimately missed one year (something like Erik Johnson 2008-09) and then returned well in the next season.
 

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What he said is that he will not play again due to the allergy and he is moving back to Slovakia with his family. But, he also said that he cannot officially retire until his contract runs out - when they asked him whether he is going to work for the Blackhawks in another capacity, he said this is not possible because he still has a contract as a player. He also said that his contract may be traded to another team, or he will be placed on long-term injured list.

Only thing that’s a little weird is that he says he can’t work in a front office position because he’s still a player. That can’t be a thing because Pronger is working for the league.
 
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justafan22

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He's not retiring officially. Pronger, Savard didn't, since you don't get your money if you declare. He'll just fail a physical and go on LTIR again. Same with Horton until their contracts are done. No player is walking away from that money.
 

Filthy Dangles

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he said he's played his last hockey game, not that he is retiring.

because retiring would terminate his contract and the 3 million he's still owed.
 
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Jay haller

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Actually, according to that article he did retire. Translation:

"I won't play hockey again. I still have a valid contract with Chicago for three more years, but my health is a priority and my health won't allow me to return.
"
"NHL leadership sent me to see a specialist in Minnesota prior to this season who confirmed that I could no longer play while taking this medication. My health is a priority and I don't want it to regress to the state from the last few seasons."

"We will see how the club will deal with this situation. Perhaps they will trade my contract into a different club, I can't say right now. Or I will stay on the list of injured players."

"My daughter starts school next year, so we had to make a decision. We will live in Slovakia."

Clearly a lie.
 

Jay haller

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It is a sham in a sense he can quit but not retire. LTIR has been an issue with allowing teams the benefit of in season flexibility while the player is basically done. I think the league should not allow a continued benefit for anyone who simply can't play again. In this case, the Hawks did circumvent the contractual revision and that has to be addressed. It was a joke the Prongers, Horton's, Hossa's stay on that list for years with no chance of playing again.

Sorry but Horton is legit and Joffrey lupul is actually a undead snowboarder now.
 
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MacDonald4MVP

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Hossa hanging in limbo trying to bank in couple more mil.
In the meantime Shipachyov walked away from nine million dollars and Lecavalier retired early leaving money on the table.
 
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Pez68

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Precedent was set with Pronger. The NHL really had no intention of ever enforcing these cap "recapture" penalties. It was nothing but smoke and mirrors to make the rest of the NHL teams, that weren't smart enough to take advantage of backloading years on contracts, feel better....
 

SotasicA

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If the doctor agrees that player is not able to return, the contract would be automatically recaptured
I like your idea, except this part will be difficult if the player says "he will attempt to come back". You can have cancer and come back a couple of years down the road. Hossa can then just say "I will continue to work on my return". Quite tough to decide retirement on the player's behalf.
 
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SotasicA

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Since he is on LTIR, he does not count against cap. Hossa gets paid and Hawks are off the hook cap wise as everyone expected.
He does count against the cap. Hawks actually haven't used his LTIR to replace cap space yet, though they can.

Even then, he does count against the cap. It's just that you can replace his cap hit, if you are about to go over.
 
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