Hard to imagine there was a pair who was worse.
And Staal was the weaker performer on the PK of the 2 of them.
Player Discussion Marc Staal
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Hard to imagine there was a pair who was worse.
And Staal was the weaker performer on the PK of the 2 of them.
Machinehead
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In fact, Staal was historically bad on the PK in 18-19.
It was to the point where he took a penalty on the PK to put us 3v5 and I was like "this is a massive improvement."
For real.
I dont understand why some people always jump to his defense when he's been so horrific no matter what evaluation method you use. Staal sucking isn't something that just started to happen. He's almost been a bad defenseman in this league for as long as he has been a good one.
free0717
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First order of business for JD. Get Marc to retire. Pay him $$$ he loses as an assistant coach in Hartford. He was pretty good helping young Defenseman.
RangerBlues
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Kaapo di tutti capi
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I doubt the league would allow that. It would be better for him to follow in the footsteps of Hossa/Callahan etc. and develop a "degenerative eye disease" so we can put him on LTIR.
Staal is going to be a fixture on the defense next season and be gushed about by coaching/management as a "steadying veteran influence for these young kids"
Its best to prepare oneself for this reality.
Its best to prepare oneself for this reality.
Thats what happens when you ripoff the team the fans support. These guys ask for waaaaay too much when they're getting contracts that take them late into their career and they dont retire when they can't hack it anymore. It's also in part bc the nhl is setup stupidly and the GMs gave out idiotic contracts one after another. I agree it's too much hate but I get why they catch some flak
SA16
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Should try to trade him (retained) to MIN. They have cap space and Fenton is a bad GM. They also do need help on the third pairing. Not that Staal actually helps it but the perception is that he does. He'd probably accept there as it's reasonably close to home and his brother plays there.
Respect the player and person, great guy, but his cap hit is really F’ing things up now, especially with the CK situation.
Lion Hound
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#18 is cooked. And he has been for a few seasons already. 2 more years of this remain...Unless he is traded out with an asset to go with it. Rangers are in a place where they can do that. Will they?
He gets $5 mil this season, so it's not a huge savings for a team if they take him.
He gets $4.2 mil next season. So that is a $1,500,000 saving from the actual cap hit. Would assume that if he gets traded it would be next year in the off season.
He gets $5 mil this season, so it's not a huge savings for a team if they take him.
He gets $4.2 mil next season. So that is a $1,500,000 saving from the actual cap hit. Would assume that if he gets traded it would be next year in the off season.
Yeh it would be a Callahan/Hossa type of situation.
Unless he retires. I don't wish physical harm on the guy, so I hope they just buy him out or find some way to trade him.
NYRFANMANI
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Still shitting on Marc Staal and incapable of just being patient until the contract is up?
I will always respect and love Marc Staal. Guy gave an eye for the team. Not his fault we couldn't score when we had too (the last window), not his fault Sather threw money around crippled us against the cap. None of any of this is his fault.
I will always respect and love Marc Staal. Guy gave an eye for the team. Not his fault we couldn't score when we had too (the last window), not his fault Sather threw money around crippled us against the cap. None of any of this is his fault.
The issue with keeping Staal is two-fold.
1. He makes everyone on his team worse. Even if thats for only 15 minutes a game, you're putting your team at a massive disadvantage for 25% of the game.
2. He is going to block better players.
It's not his fault, but he shouldn't be playing. He is not one of the 6 best defensemen in the organization.
1. He makes everyone on his team worse. Even if thats for only 15 minutes a game, you're putting your team at a massive disadvantage for 25% of the game.
2. He is going to block better players.
It's not his fault, but he shouldn't be playing. He is not one of the 6 best defensemen in the organization.
free0717
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How can the league stop it? Do the teams have to report non player payroll to the league???
Kaapo di tutti capi
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I would imagine the league would see right through that - it's fairly blatant cap circumvention. Then again, I thought Hossa was blatant cap circumvention too, so what do I know?
This league sets the standard for cap circumvention. Staal need to get "intermittent temporary glaucoma" in his good eye between October and March of the next two year's.
Players ask for what they want. A team can choose not to pay them. You're really blaming someone for asking for as much as possible?
You assume things too often and you have a bad habit of purposely framing things in a way that just misses a lot.
Blaming them for signing a contract they can't live up to and choosing to play it out when they know they can't live up to it?
Yea. They're multi millionaire adults. They can handle it if they get blamed for their decisions.
Do i UNDERSTAND their decision too? Yes
Am I furious that they won't pull a Naslund/Gil Meche? No.
But I also don't feel any particular need to sugar coat things when talking about past their prime overpaid adults who happen to suck at a sport now. I already mentioned the idiocy of the GMs and people giving out these contracts. I'm not spewing vitriol and venom at the guy. Im stating a fact that he sucks and is drastically overpaid to the point where he hurts the team by being on it.
If he chooses to continue then I don't see what's wrong with pointing out that he's a detriment
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KirkAlbuquerque
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I have a confession... I only own one NYR jersey.... and its a Staal 18.
For that reason I hope he sticks around a litttle longer
You do realize that there's a country mile between "pointing out that he's a detriment" vs. being serious about a player leaving millions on the table just because he's getting older/is a detriment. The Rangers signed him to this deal. He's entitled to every dime.
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He is indeed, but he is also entitled to the grief that goes with it. That's just how it goes in sports.
Machinehead
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He's entitled to every dime but he's not entitled to be on the ice.
Just because you have to pay Staal doesn't mean you have to play Staal.
Just because you have to pay Staal doesn't mean you have to play Staal.
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