Bergevin is a genius. His last gift to the organization..was premeditated since the PK trade. He planned everything. So genius!
Sorry guys it seems like I don't know how to use the quote and reply feature , All I wanted to say is I agree with Bryson's post. The stats are right there....
I don't think he really meant anything by it. I mean, they want to get better and win, short term, long term, make everything great again... What is short term? Was he talking about as soon as the next season? 2 years? 3? And what constitutes as an improvement?I was referring to this Molson quote from the 2012 presser where Bergevin was announced:
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/montrealer-marc-bergevin-named-canadiens-gm-1.1129922
If Molson was not asking for Bergevin to "win now", then what does he mean by "improve the team in the short-term"? If you're rebuilding, then it's incompatible with the long-term goal of improving the team through drafting and development since improving the team in the short term infers improvements that run counter to the longwinded process that is usually associated with rebuilding over the long term. Hence my comment in the other thread.
Hey Armaniac, welcome to the forum! All you have to do is press on the "reply" icon and the forum will automatically quote the post for you down at the bottom. Then you just type whatever you want after the quote. Hope that helps.
I don't think he really meant anything by it. I mean, they want to get better and win, short term, long term, make everything great again... What is short term? Was he talking about as soon as the next season? 2 years? 3? And what constitutes as an improvement?
I care more about the words that came out of Bergevin as he is the one hired to make those objectives come true. He said it would take time and they want to rebuild through draft-development. His actions were consistent with his words the first year, as he just got rid of some of the garbage here and signed bottom players. Pretty sure if he had his way, we would have ended with another top 3 pick.
You don't sign Prust, Armstrong and Bouillon after finished 28th and think this will improve us short term. So, really, I don't think the plan was to win the division or be in any form ''competitive'' right away.
Yakupov?
Ya it's difficult to know where Molson's head is really at.I had trouble with Molson's statements for the reason you expounded -- and since he's not a hockey man, I agree with putting the onus of hockey decisions and the way they're going to be implemented, on Bergevin. Too many statements made by Bergevin were inconsistent with his actions over the long run and that continues to plague him but somehow, none of it seems to put his job in jeopardy. Molson tolerance's for Bergevin's dog and pony show is unknown, Molson doesn't come across as someone who will make rash decisions or statements. Or maybe, Molson doesn't really appreciate the extent of what has been going on. That proverbial leash is going to be something open to speculation this year, if this keeps up.
All the more reason to fire Bergevin. It's like he's not aware that the game now is more about speed and skills.
But this is on Geoff Molson too.
Ya it's difficult to know where Molson's head is really at.
On one hand he's being a good owner on letting his GM take hockey decisions. On the other, he seems incapable of knowing his GM is doing a terrible job.
He's a narcissist with delusions of self grandeur where he thinks he is the singular most intelligent hockey person who's ever lived.
So he just doesn't understand.
How do you figure?Been saying this for years. The guy is totally high on his own supply.
As for the poll, he's definitely looking for a way to get Burrows! He will grind us out of our troubles!
How do you figure?
Why would he be looking to trade for Burrows?.....your post seems to be based on emotion
Look at the poll options.How do you figure?
Why would he be looking to trade for Burrows?.....your post seems to be based on emotion
Look at the poll options.
You have to have the inane straw man built so you can whip the masses to tear it down.
Look at the poll options.
You have to have the inane straw man built so you can whip the masses to tear it down.
The other day the girlfriend was laying into me for not loading the dishwasher properly, so I had to remind her just how long it took David Poile to reach the stanley cup finals.
if he did it in less that 19 or so years of being Habs GM Bergevin's a f***ing genius!Actually we had a sunny month of September. Thank you Bergie. Not true that he ****s up everything he touches. He at least was able to do that.
No -- the buck stops with the GM.When he straps on the skates and plays for the Habs.