TSN: Maple Leafs have offers for D Franson (prefer to re-sign him)

[mikebel111*]

I like that they're trying to get a reasonable offer for him. They're fully aware of his horribly ****** defensive game, so if he is brought back, he better be staying on the 3rd-pairing with very limited minutes. I've never seen a defensemen who gives up so many short-handed chances to the other team, it was getting downright ridiculous at some parts of the season.

Its amusing some people blamed Rielly and Gardiner for the horrific errors Cody made.

 

[ShaneFalco]

If Franson can revert to his form of 2 years ago, I wouldn't mind keeping him at all.

Thing is, how much do you want to pay him?

 

[Hope Bringer]

We've had some sticky situations contract wise with Franson so I'd expect an overpayment if he is resigned.

I don't mind Franson but I'd rather not pay north of $3 mil which he will most certainly get. I think we can replace him internally.

 

[achtungbaby]

Pro Tip - don't believe everything you hear(read).

Including this? Or just if it comes from a pro?

 

[SmoggyTwinkles]

It really seemed like Franson was directly responsible for at least 1 goal against per game every single game from the beginning of the season through to the Olympic break.

For some reason he played better after that but for me I can't just forget how bad he was the majority of the season.

Addition by subtraction is my opinion on Cody.

 

[share]

Leafs management mantra staying the same... Keep all the same players, convince yourself they'll play better

Would you trade him if the best offer was a 4th rounder ?

 

[AINEC*]

Chances are he'll probably have a better season considering just how brutal he was wall year, so I wouldn't be against hanging on to him and then trading him. Probably won't bring much back at the moment to be worthwhile.

 

[Highlander23]

Would you trade him if the best offer was a 4th rounder ?

I would trade him for a 2nd !! Lets face it, he is a PP specialist (not even great at that either)

 

[DaveT83*]

Better keep this winning roster together!!!!

 

[X66]

Look at his puck possession stat under any coach not named Randy Carlyle...

 

[mikebel111*]

Look at his puck possession stat under any coach not named Randy Carlyle...

What's your point?

He is still garbage in own end
Please Nonis get rid of him

 

[mikebel111*]

Would you trade him if the best offer was a 4th rounder ?

Were you one of those people who blames Rielly and Gardiner for the mistakes he made.
For the record, I think we can get a late 2nd for him

 

[X66]

What's your point?

He is still garbage in own end
Please Nonis get rid of him

Who hasn't been garbage in our own end under Carlyle?

Not one player had a positive puck possession stat under Carlyle in 2 straight years.

 

[nuck]

Unacceptable. Meaning a 3rd rounder?

Remember when Kaberle was first on the block (and didn't get traded) and BB talked regularly about the number of teams interested? Interested in acquiring, but not in paying a decent price for.

He is huge, had a ton of hits, and has offensive skills, and if a club thinks they can bring back the guy from two seasons ago, they wil pay a lot for that. I think his best value is in a package, but to a club that likes his A game and there might not be that many Franson lovers who also have assets and a need. I would be fine if they kept him, but only if Gardner was moved. Three guys trying to find their game is too many. I have no idea why they didn't see that during the season.

 

[a a ron]

He was useful when he was sheltered and used mainly on the 1st pp. Keep him I say.

 

[Simcoe23]

What's your point?

He is still garbage in own end
Please Nonis get rid of him

This. Cant make a breakout pass to save his life, gets caught pinching at least once per game and as the previous poster states, absolutely brutal in his own end, and especially soft for someone who is 6'5".

If they sign him, this team is not serious about change.

 

[masarume]

I would trade him for a 2nd !! Lets face it, he is a PP specialist (not even great at that either)

Does that mean you wouldn't trade him for anything less?

 

[masarume]

This. Cant make a breakout pass to save his life, gets caught pinching at least once per game and as the previous poster states, absolutely brutal in his own end, and especially soft for someone who is 6'5".

If they sign him, this team is not serious about change.

Yes to all of the above EXCEPT this.
He was 2nd in the league in hits. Hard to call a guy who accomplishes that as "soft"

 

[Pholus]

Unacceptable. Meaning a 3rd rounder?

Based on his play this year I would take a (high) 3rd for him, if that's still the best offer on the table closer to the draft.

 

[Myke]

I'll start the bidding.

I, diatomic, bid the chewed gum under my desk.

I bid the chewed gum in my mouth. BAM! One up.

 

[rdawg1234]

Yes to all of the above EXCEPT this.
He was 2nd in the league in hits. Hard to call a guy who accomplishes that as "soft"

Do you remember any of those hits? they were basically love taps.

Seriously not interested in bringing this guy back on the team and I'm shocked management is considering it. He was our worst d-man by far and it would be addition by subtraction to let a guy like Granberg play in his place.

He has no mobility, makes boneheaded giveaways(he did this in the year before too which everyone said he was decent).

His only redeeming factor is his shot on the point, so yes he has value there.

 

[Sharabhi]

He needs to go...! If franson is still on the roster next year, we're in big trouble, unless we're unloading some of our other soft dmen.

Honestly, I'd the best offer we get for him (even a 4th), just to make sure he's not on the roster nxt year!

His value should be a late 2nd or early 3rd imo, on a team that needs some O on their PP, or sees more potential in him.

He is soft, don't let the stats kid you. Give Gardiner or Reilly the PP1 mins he had, and they would get similar pts imo.

 

[achtungbaby]

Yes to all of the above EXCEPT this.
He was 2nd in the league in hits. Hard to call a guy who accomplishes that as "soft"

I haven't looked but how many of his hits are at home vs away? It's such a subjective stat depending on who's watching. The only check worth a lot is the one that separates a man from the puck.

 

[Pholus]

He needs to go...! If franson is still on the roster next year, we're in big trouble, unless we're unloading some of our other soft dmen.

Honestly, I'd the best offer we get for him (even a 4th), just to make sure he's not on the roster nxt year!

His value should be a late 2nd or early 3rd imo, on a team that needs some O on their PP, or sees more potential in him.

He is soft, don't let the stats kid you. Give Gardiner or Reilly the PP1 mins he had, and they would get similar pts imo.

Gardiner already gets similar pts to him (Gardiner 31, Franson 33 this yr) w/o getting [much] pp1 time. Even Reilly had 27 pts w/o any pp1 time. If you give his pp mins to Reilly/Gardiner, either should be able to get ~40pts next season (if not more).

 

[Highlander23]

Does that mean you wouldn't trade him for anything less?

It means that he is not an important part of the team, we have the players (rielly, gardiner) to replace what he brings !!

Heck look at anaheim or any winning team, they are letting Hiller, Koivu and winnik walk instead of resiging someone who is not part of their future plans, thats what i call proper management

Our GM seems to be unwilling to trade UFAs, RFAs, and still refuses to let them walk for nothing, instead we overpay (Grabo, potentially Bolland...)