Dreger: Maple Leafs Among Teams Interested in Hall

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Campbell

Marner for Jones + Jenner

Maybe something like this is what they are thinking?
If I’m Columbus, I would accept that offer if the Leafs threw in something small.
 
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Legion34

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The Leafs can't afford Hyman. How could they afford Hall?

they actually can pretty easily. If they lose kerfoot as predicted They have 13.5 million to play with with a lineup of

xxxxx. Matthews. Marner
Robertson tavares. Nylander
Xxxxxx. Xxxxxxx. Mikeheyev
xxxxxxx. Spezza. Simmonds.

rielly. Brodie
Muzz Holl
Dermot. Sandin.

Campbell:

so they need 4 forwards and a back up goalie. For 13.5 million.

IFFFF hall went for 6 million
you have 7.5 million for a back up (1.5-3 million)
4th forward (less than 1 million)
Then 2 forwards.

I’m not saying it’s a great idea. I’m. Not saying hall will take that. Although he wants to play
Here. I’m not saying the leafs
Want him they chose foligno last
Year.

But it is possible if they believe in one of Robertson/galch as a winger for Tavares s
 

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Hall is perfect for the Leafs.

Elliotte Friedman was on Edmonton radio with Bob Stauffer on Friday. Elliotte said Hall is looking for a 3-4 year contract. He didn't mention the type of money being requested. Elliotte thought Hall was going back to Boston but he isn't so sure now.

Hall will be the missing piece to put the Leafs over the top.
 

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I think the Leafs view Hall as a Kessel to their Crosbo/Malkin (Matthews/Tavares)

but they already have 2 Kessels in Marner and Nylander who make a lot more.
 

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they actually can pretty easily. If they lose kerfoot as predicted They have 13.5 million to play with with a lineup of

xxxxx. Matthews. Marner
Robertson tavares. Nylander
Xxxxxx. Xxxxxxx. Mikeheyev
xxxxxxx. Spezza. Simmonds.

rielly. Brodie
Muzz Holl
Dermot. Sandin.

Campbell:

so they need 4 forwards and a back up goalie. For 13.5 million.

IFFFF hall went for 6 million
you have 7.5 million for a back up (1.5-3 million)
4th forward (less than 1 million)
Then 2 forwards.

I’m not saying it’s a great idea. I’m. Not saying hall will take that. Although he wants to play
Here. I’m not saying the leafs
Want him they chose foligno last
Year.

But it is possible if they believe in one of Robertson/galch as a winger for Tavares s
So no 3rd goalie no extra forwards or D?
Running with Jack and cheap backup is a risky move that should be avoided.
Jack seems like a good dude but injury-prone and still hasn't shown he can be a 1A over a full-season.
 

Legion34

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So no 3rd goalie no extra forwards or D?
Running with Jack and cheap backup is a risky move that should be avoided.
Jack seems like a good dude but injury-prone and still hasn't shown he can be a 1A over a full-season.

? your 3rd goalie doesn’t get counted.

Toronto has always started the season with 20 players. They call up and down based on injury.


They let cap accrue as it foes. They have done it every these
 

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Hall is perfect for the Leafs.

Elliotte Friedman was on Edmonton radio with Bob Stauffer on Friday. Elliotte said Hall is looking for a 3-4 year contract. He didn't mention the type of money being requested. Elliotte thought Hall was going back to Boston but he isn't so sure now.

Hall will be the missing piece to put the Leafs over the top.
Considering Hall doesn't play defense the most likely thing he'll bring to the leaves is another first overall pick. Just like almost every other year of his career.
 

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? your 3rd goalie doesn’t get counted.

Toronto has always started the season with 20 players. They call up and down based on injury.


They let cap accrue as it foes. They have done it every these
You haven’t left any money for injury call ups, TDL moves.
 
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Legion34

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You haven’t left any money for injury call ups, TDL moves.

All you need is a couple hundred k. The leafs do it every year. They do paper transactions on off days to accrue cap.

2 years ago they were In “cap hell” then they actually were able to retain on lehner to facilitate the trade of lehner.

this year they had no money. But we’re able to add rittich Foligno and Hutton at the deadline.

All they need is 12 f 6 d and 2 g for like 81,250,ooo and they will be able to call up and add as they please.
 
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All you need is a couple hundred k. The leafs do it every year. They do paper transactions on off days to accrue cap.

2 years ago they were In “cap hell” then they actually were able to retain on lehner to facilitate the trade of lehner.

this year they had no money. But we’re able to add rittich Foligno and Hutton at the deadline.

All they need is 12 f 6 d and 2 g for like 81,250,ooo and they will be able to call up and add as they please.

The Leafs also lose every year. They don't need more star power. They need a balanced roster.
 

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All you need is a couple hundred k. The leafs do it every year. They do paper transactions on off days to accrue cap.

2 years ago they were In “cap hell” then they actually were able to retain on lehner to facilitate the trade of lehner.

this year they had no money. But we’re able to add rittich Foligno and Hutton at the deadline.

All they need is 12 f 6 d and 2 g for like 81,250,ooo and they will be able to call up and add as they please.

There is no LTIR until after 10 games missed or 23 days.
Good luck to you, show us a team has gotten through a year with 250k.
You need to pay the injured guy plus the call up.
Plus most players are likely all 1 way deals.

If one of the top 3 go down, you lose about 135k per game missed, plus cost of replacement player.

Isn’t there a limit of 3 emergency call ups, then rule changes.
 
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Legion34

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The Leafs also lose every year. They don't need more star power. They need a balanced roster.

ugh I am saying it is possible to do so. Regardless of the specific players. You do not need to have a 23 man roster or save millions at the start
For deadline acquisitions.

regardless of the players you spend the money on. A team can function the whole year with a 20 player roster that is close to the cap and still have enough room for deadline
 

Legion34

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There is no LTIR until after 10 games missed or 23 days.
Good luck to you, show us a team has gotten through a year with 250k.
You need to pay the injured guy plus the call up.
Plus most players are likely all 1 way deals.

If one of the top 3 go down, you lose about 135k per game missed, plus cost of replacement player.

not true at all

there is emergency call ups. If you have players that are under 800 k you can call them up without any penalty.

That’s why TO stockpiles players like agastino and gravel and petan etc on 1 ways. Below 800 k. It doesn’t cost any cap at all. Look up emergency call up players. They changed the rule after Calgary had to play below roster a few years back.

You waive players up and down on off days. Toronto has literally done this exact thing for 2 years. This isn’t new to Toronto. It’s what they do all the time.
 

Golden_Jet

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not true at all

there is emergency call ups. If you have players that are under 800 k you can call them up without any penalty.

That’s why TO stockpiles players like agastino and gravel and petan etc on 1 ways. Below 800 k. It doesn’t cost any cap at all. Look up emergency call up players. They changed the rule after Calgary had to play below roster a few years back.

You waive players up and down on off days. Toronto has literally done this exact thing for 2 years. This isn’t new to Toronto. It’s what they do all the time.

It is true,
What you say about the 800k is also true.

you didn’t address the 135k per game cost if one of the big 3 have an injury, like I said there is NO relief for the first 10 games.

So if one misses 4 games, that’s over 500k.
 

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Hall is perfect for the Leafs.

Elliotte Friedman was on Edmonton radio with Bob Stauffer on Friday. Elliotte said Hall is looking for a 3-4 year contract. He didn't mention the type of money being requested. Elliotte thought Hall was going back to Boston but he isn't so sure now.

Hall will be the missing piece to put the Leafs over the top.

He had a great time in Boston, where he always wanted to play, and Boston is still in a Cup window. Why is he so stupid? Just sign.
My guess with Hall is that he ends up kn Detroit for a 7$m contract, fixing Wright and Michkov for Detroit.
 

Legion34

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It is true,
What you say about the 800k is also true.

you didn’t address the 135k per game cost if one of the big 3 have an injury, like I said there is NO relief for the first 10 games.

So if one misses 4 games, that’s over 500k.

????? that is already accounted for. The players salary is already accounted for in full.

you don’t get salary cap penalties for being injured. The player doesn’t get paid twice. What you are suggesting would mean that teams would
Have to be millions under the cap. What if 5 players get injured? For 7 games. That’s 4 million


IF a player gets injured and you can’t put them
On the LTIR you don’t get to spend their millions. Like you can’t trade for or call up a 3 million dollar player. But you can call up an 800k player.

The leafs did it the year tavares and marner were both hurt.


If the leafs spent to 81.5 exactly. And marner gets injured for 5 games. They can call up Robertson at 796 k for 0 dollars against the cap.

They have done if for 2 years multiple
Times
 

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