Value of: Make a Trade with Toronto

[Bazeek]

Kapanen + 2020 1st for Spurgeon

More value than what the Leafs gave for 1.5 years of Muzzin, and only get 1 year of Spurgeon (though you definitely try to re-sign him)

If Minnesota trades a defenseman it needs to be for a center. Kapanen at RW would be nice but that's a hole we'll probably try to fill by trading Zucker. It's not a good fit.

 

[jgimp]

Signed Trouba for Matthews

 

[Randy Randerson]

Signed Trouba for Matthews

oh, oh my no...

 

[BeLeafing]

If Minnesota trades a defenseman it needs to be for a center. Kapanen at RW would be nice but that's a hole we'll probably try to fill by trading Zucker. It's not a good fit.

I'm just spitballing for sake of conversation, but why can't Zucker be the asset used to fetch a center? Or why can't Minny dip into the FA pool to find one?

 

[Hunter368]

Signed Trouba for Matthews

No chance

 

[jgimp]

No chance

Wishful thinking. How much would Peg have to add?

 

[Dion TheFluff]

Kapanen's RFA rights for McGinn's RFA rights+37OA

Carolina uses its futures depth to take a chance on Kapanen's potential.

Toronto gets what should be a cheaper Top 9 LW/RW that brings a LHS and adds some additional jam to lineup. The high 2nd helps to backfill for what was lost in the Muzzin trade and what might be lost in a Marleau and/or Zaitsev trade.

I wouldn't mind this trade. it's close

 

[Bazeek]

I'm just spitballing for sake of conversation, but why can't Zucker be the asset used to fetch a center? Or why can't Minny dip into the FA pool to find one?

I think if they can flip Zucker for a center they will, but trading him for the sort of center we need will be difficult. I'm sure that's why they were after Dvorak and that's been a no-go.

Signing Duchene would be great, but about a third of the league will probably be after him so that's a tough one to bet on. Beyond him you have guys like Hayes, who don't really fit what we need.

 

[SHANNYPLAN]

Wishful thinking. How much would Peg have to add?

Start with Scheifele (as the add)

 

[jgimp]

Start with Scheifele (as the add)

WOW, that’s bad
I mean RyJo went straight up for Jones, Trouba isn’t Jones but not far off. Scheif aint the difference!

 

[ThreeOfAPerfectPair]

Russell for Brown. Maybe $750k retention on Russell.

 

[MSLs absurd thighs]

 

[SHANNYPLAN]

WOW, that’s bad
I mean RyJo went straight up for Jones, Trouba isn’t Jones but not far off. Scheif aint the difference!

Lol, Matthews isn’t going anywhere, that’s the type of deal that would get the leafs talking

Jones >> Trouba
Matthews >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RyJo

 

[DOCHockeyGuy]

Ladd for Matthews

 

[Hunter368]

Wishful thinking. How much would Peg have to add?

Leafs aren’t trading AM who is the face and future of the franchise. Non starter

 

[Magic Man]

I agree in terms of Kapanen, being a decent asset.
Not a top 15 OA asset in the draft.

With a 14th overall pick you're hoping at 22 you have something like Kapanen. The Leafs are competing, in what world does it make sense to turn back the clock and start again. It makes no sense at all.

 

[Leaf4Life79]

Marner for Domi + Kotkaniemi

Mark my words. Mitch is going nowhere!

 

[Dion TheFluff]

Russell for Brown. Maybe $750k retention on Russell.

hard pass

 

[93gilmour93]

Signed Trouba for Matthews

Lmao

 

[Liferleafer]

Russell for Brown. Maybe $750k retention on Russell.

Would rather just keep Brown or trade him for a 3rd/4th.

 

[Liferleafer]

Signed Trouba for Matthews

That's a good add, what's the main piece?

 

[Randy Randerson]

WOW, that’s bad
I mean RyJo went straight up for Jones, Trouba isn’t Jones but not far off. Scheif aint the difference!

that's revisionist history - Johansen was still thought to have upside from a 70pt peak, Jones had not turned into a top pairing defenseman at that point. Matthews' single season high water mark is already above Johansen's and he missed 14 games that season

Matthews is the keystone of the franchise, if he gets removed it's time to rebuild, so there won't be a trade price for him that "makes sense", it'll be absurd or he won't get traded

 

[GeauxPreds1]

Johnsson
Kadri
Bracco
Durzi

For

Ellis
Sissons

 

[jgimp]

that's revisionist history - Johansen was still thought to have upside from a 70pt peak, Jones had not turned into a top pairing defenseman at that point. Matthews' single season high water mark is already above Johansen's and he missed 14 games that season

Matthews is the keystone of the franchise, if he gets removed it's time to rebuild, so there won't be a trade price for him that "makes sense", it'll be absurd or he won't get traded

I know, just wishful thinking

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Zaitsev and Brown for Ryder, Halak and a 2nd?

Old habs get ripped.