Value of: Make a Trade with New Jersey
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SpeakingOfTheDevils
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Not enough value going back to Winnipeg. Devils probably need to add Hischier, this years 1st overall, and Ty Smith to even get the conversation started.
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SpeakingOfTheDevils
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Tampa has to move salary this summer. It isn't avoidable, and it isn't a secret. That alone cheapens the value of any player they try to move. Their urgency precludes any leverage.
That's not to say a bidding war can't/won't generate a higher-than-expected return for whichever forward(s) they decide to trade.
If the price for Miller ends up being what was proposed (multiple 2nds+), the Devils should stay out of it. If we're paying that high of a price, we should just go all-in on a top-4 LHD upgrade. JT Miller doesn't fill a need (at all), so it would be hard to justify entering and winning a bidding war for him.
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JT Miller doesnt fit a need? I forgot we are swimming in top 6 forwards especially bigger ones with skill. Also if there isnt a top 4 LHD available (very possible) then you cant just not upgrade your roster because the thing you want the most isnt out there.
SpeakingOfTheDevils
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He’d be a fine player to acquire, but like said, he doesn’t fill a big enough need to justify entering/winning a bidding war. He’s a LW/C, and we have plenty of those.
If we go into 2019-20 without any changes (which won’t happen), we already have to shift Zacha to LW because of Hughes’ arrival.
That then leaves us overflowing at LW, necessitating further shifts of either Coleman or Wood to RW.
I’m against the idea of paying top dollar for a player that doesn’t address the biggest organizational needs (LHD upgrade or a true RW).
For me, it's not enough to carry his salary even for a year. That's a back end third round pick, has almost no value in my opinion. I feel like there are much better methods to weaponizing your cap space if you are the Devils.
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This just isn't worth it for NJ. They have a ton of picks already as it is.
The only type of deal I would do like this is something like Nashville 2nd for Callahan and TB 1st
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I think even if Hall signs we might do this deal. I know I'd definitely consider it.
Stephen Gionta
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A non extended Taylor Hall @ 50% retained ($3 mil cap hit) + 2019 80th overall pick to Tampa Bay for JT Miller, Ryan Callahan, and 2019 27th overall pick.
New Jersey still gets the opportunity to sign Hall next summer (though only to a 7 year deal) after he wins the 2020 Stanley Cup with Tampa Bay.
New Jersey still gets the opportunity to sign Hall next summer (though only to a 7 year deal) after he wins the 2020 Stanley Cup with Tampa Bay.
Hall for Gaudreau
Calgary would have to feel pretty confident in ability to re-sign hall. New Jersey gets a stud to play with Hischier/hughes
Calgary would have to feel pretty confident in ability to re-sign hall. New Jersey gets a stud to play with Hischier/hughes
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SpeakingOfTheDevils
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I like Krug enough but he isnt really the type of DMan we need. We have enough smallish puck movers
Zippy316
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Not bad in theory.
But with Hischier, Bratt, Hughes, and potentially Boqvist, Devils don't need yet another undersized softer forward.
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