Proposal: Major blockbuster (TO-CGY)

[Tkachuky]

Gaudreau, Frolik & Hamonic [14,907,143 MM]
FOR
Marner & Ceci (10% retained) [14,943,00MM]

Why do the Flames trade Gaudreau for Marner? Johnny makes way less for another few years. Similar players

 

[HugginThePost]

Revisit what Quebec got for Eric Lindros, add more draft picks for the cash they exchanged and add from there if you also want Kapanen and Barrie!

Except, well, you know, that was Eric Lindros.

Auston is a faaaaaaaarrrrrrrr cry from Lindros.

Like different planets.

 

[CraigsList]

Monahan is nothing without Gaudreau.
Toronto getting fleeced here.

Monahan pots the great feeds.

He would play well with either Marner or Nylander.

I think Calgary adds quite a bit, but it's not a bad start.

 

[CaptainCrunch67]

How about Marner for Tkachuk straight up.

Calgary says no

 

[Connor McConnor]

I don't like how much Toronto fans hype Matthews as a 1B to McDavid but Flame fans hyping Monahan as a #1C is actually worse.

The difference is AM is actually a superstar #1C whereas Monahan has now proved he's actually worse than even a good #2C. He's a middle of the pack #2C.

Toronto says hell no.

 

[Tkachuky]

I don't like how much Toronto fans hype Matthews as a 1B to McDavid but Flame fans hyping Monahan as a #1C is actually worse.

The difference is AM is actually a superstar #1C whereas Monahan has now proved he's actually worse than even a good #2C. He's a middle of the pack #2C.

Toronto says hell no.

Putting the trade aside you, Monahan not even a good 2c? Seriously?

 

[Flameshomer]

Putting the trade aside you, Monahan not even a good 2c? Seriously?

Very obviously a shitpost lol. Monahan is a 1c by literally every metric.

 

[Flameshomer]

I understand TO fans turning this down. I thinn there are some interesting elements to it though. They get a couple more Toronto boys in Monahan and Bennett who will be very motivated to play for the hometown squad. Hanifin is a potential top pair dman. Spreads more cap commitment back to the d while maintaining a strong 1a 1b centre balance between tavares and Monahan.

For the flames, it gives them the all-American 1st line of gaudreau-matthews-tkachuk and gives them the legit superstar they have missed forever. Also matthews-McDavid would take on a whole new level of meaning.

 

[Puckstuff]

Huge fan of Tkachuk. Matthews for Tkachuk+Monahan is damn tempting. That would be so hard to do though for all involved. That said it's best for both teams to give it another year before they make any drastic decisions.

 

[780il]

Seems to me the Flames are trying to swindle away a franchise #1c and only give up a 2c, 3d, and spare parts.

 

[Menzinger]

I understand TO fans turning this down. I thinn there are some interesting elements to it though. They get a couple more Toronto boys in Monahan and Bennett who will be very motivated to play for the hometown squad. Hanifin is a potential top pair dman. Spreads more cap commitment back to the d while maintaining a strong 1a 1b centre balance between tavares and Monahan.

For the flames, it gives them the all-American 1st line of gaudreau-matthews-tkachuk and gives them the legit superstar they have missed forever. Also matthews-McDavid would take on a whole new level of meaning.

The Flames pieces in the deal are all very good. But just not enough to get the Leafs to move a guy like Matthews

 

[Petrus]

If Toronto is going to deal their 1c they need to address their glaring need a top notch 1D.

 

[Funk21]

Calgary and Toronto have a storied history of making big shakeup trades.

Monahan+hanifin+Bennett+hamonic for Matthews+Kapanen+Barrie

From a TML fan perspective I would do it.

 

[HugginThePost]

I don't like how much Toronto fans hype Matthews as a 1B to McDavid but Flame fans hyping Monahan as a #1C is actually worse.

The difference is AM is actually a superstar #1C whereas Monahan has now proved he's actually worse than even a good #2C. He's a middle of the pack #2C.

Toronto says hell no.

What? Please display all these Flames fans that think he is a #1C?

I usually see them claiming the team will go nowhere with him as a #1C.

I tend to agree with that, but to claim he's not even a good #2C is just plain old Oiler shit talk.

 

[Advanced stats]

Calgary and Toronto have a storied history of making big shakeup trades.

Monahan+hanifin+Bennett+hamonic for Matthews+Kapanen+Barrie

In a vacuum
Barrie and Kapanen = hanafin and Bennett

So that leaves
Matthews for Monahan and Hamonic?

Toronto says absolutely not.
Not even freaking close.

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

Matthews for

Monahan + Hanifin + pick

Is what I would try to do. Hopefully Dubas is as stupid as he seems

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

In a vacuum
Barrie and Kapanen = hanafin and Bennett

So that leaves
Matthews for Monahan and Hamonic?

Toronto says absolutely not.
Not even freaking close.

How are Barrie and Kap worth Hanifin? Guy has a great contract and is going to be a top pair D for another decade

 

[Advanced stats]

How are Barrie and Kap worth Hanifin? Guy has a great contract and is going to be a top pair D for another decade

Well Barrie, before his 20 games in Toronto was seen as a low end #1/high end #2.....which is the same as hanafin.

 

[Not Canada Drai]

How about Marner for Tkachuk straight up.

Calgary need more players like Tkachuk and less like Marner.

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

Well Barrie, before his 20 games in Toronto was seen as a low end #1/high end #2.....which is the same as hanafin.

But Hanifin has 4 more years after this on a sweet deal, is 5 years younger while Barrie is UFA

 

[Advanced stats]

But Hanifin has 4 more years after this on a sweet deal, is 5 years younger while Barrie is UFA

Valid. Contract is valid.

 

[Nothingbutglass]

Well Barrie, before his 20 games in Toronto was seen as a low end #1/high end #2.....which is the same as hanafin.

Who saw that? Barrie was never good enough defensively to be in that tier. He was a PP/transition weapon that somehow the Leafs broke.

 

[Advanced stats]

Who saw that? Barrie was never good enough defensively to be in that tier. He was a PP/transition weapon that somehow the Leafs broke.

Every defense ranking/list/insider had Barrie as a top 30-45 defenseman.

 

[Duffman955]

No thanks from Toronto.

 

[34]

Matthews is going no where. Untouchable.