Maclean out, Cameron in. Part 2

[Icelevel]

I see the same team more or less. Great some nights, don't show up some nights.

Only difference I see is a much much better distribution of ice time.

So you wanted a switch flicked

 

[BigBush*]

So you wanted a switch flicked

Hah what do you mean?

 

[Icelevel]

Hah what do you mean?

I mean it's too early to evaluate a new coaches impact.
But, I don't care what happens from here. Phillips is scratched again after a poor game. That alone makes it so much easier to be a fan. No joke.
I've been impressed with what he's been able to do in such a short time though. From fore heck to ice time to practice intensity. All very good changes. Let's see what happens down the road. Coach success is so hard to predict.

 

[BigBush*]

I mean it's too early to evaluate a new coaches impact.
But, I don't care what happens from here. Phillips is scratched again after a poor game. That alone makes it so much easier to be a fan. No joke.
I've been impressed with what he's been able to do in such a short time though. From fore heck to ice time to practice intensity. All very good changes. Let's see what happens down the road. Coach success is so hard to predict.

Oh ya, I agree, still to early to evaluate a coaches impact.
I still see Ottawa as a .500 team though, I don't think Cameron can change that. They played some good games under Maclean, and some really poor ones. I expect the trend to continue

 

[God Says No]

Yip, results on the ice have been minimal. But there are small improvements. Love the ice distribution and scratches 1000% better than PM. Especially I like the scaling down of Karlsson minutes. I think that makes his game better.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Bringing down Karlsson's minutes was so god damn simple I'm honestly baffled as to why it took a new coach to figure that out

 

[HavlatMach9]

Bringing down Karlsson's minutes was so god damn simple I'm honestly baffled as to why it took a new coach to figure that out

i'm more happy they made him cut out the amount of times he takes risks. i don't know why MacLean allowed that. it probably allowed us to win a bit more, but it's not the way to play in the playoffs

 

[BigBush*]

i'm more happy they made him cut out the amount of times he takes risks. i don't know why MacLean allowed that. it probably allowed us to win a bit more, but it's not the way to play in the playoffs

The risks just aren't as worth it when you play on a team that really lacks scoring 5 vs 5.
Taking a risk to set up Spezza in a nice spot is way more worth it then setting up Turris

 

[Do Make Say Think]

i'm more happy they made him cut out the amount of times he takes risks. i don't know why MacLean allowed that. it probably allowed us to win a bit more, but it's not the way to play in the playoffs

I think it goes hand in hand honestly

There's less pressure on him to produce if he isn't on the ice for half the game

 

[LatteLarrys]

So there is a lot of speculation to suggest that MacLean will be picked up by the Devils momentarily (as per the Score - http://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/666763).

Well, his structural game should be a good complement to the Devils. We all knew Paul would be swept up sooner or later.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

MacLean along with Oates and Stevens should be a decent coaching staff

 

[YouGotAStuGoing]

So there is a lot of speculation to suggest that MacLean will be picked up by the Devils momentarily (as per the Score - http://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/666763).

Well, his structural game should be a good complement to the Devils. We all knew Paul would be swept up sooner or later.

That was 10 hours ago. I don't think Lamoriello would have introduced himself as going behind the bench if he had Paul lined up.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

So offense under Maclean was not an issue but the defense was

Now, under Cameron, scoring is a big problem

As the season goes I think we'll start to see how important Paul's system was

At the end of the day the problem was the roster, not the coach

 

[ISensFanI]

Yup the roster is garbage lol

 

[Fandlauer]

So offense under Maclean was not an issue but the defense was

Now, under Cameron, scoring is a big problem

As the season goes I think we'll start to see how important Paul's system was

At the end of the day the problem was the roster, not the coach

Exactly.

Maclean was a great coach, not a miracle worker. The team is no better off with him gone.

This is just not a roster that is capable of making the playoffs. I don't know what people were expecting.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

I don't know if the roster is garbage: the top 6 is shaping up well and Cowen - Ceci is a good pairing

The problem is that the top 6 remains young and inconsistent and the gaping hole on D for Karlsson partner

Those are serious issues that coaching can't do anything about. The top 6 will improve on it's own but until that hole on D is patched up we aren't going anywhere

I'll give Maclean credit: he had this team scoring despite the lack of skill on the roster but I doubt his system would have lead this team anywhere in the playoffs. I mean Pittsburhg absolutely annihilated us despite the team playing to it's full potential and you need to get by teams like to go far.

 

[ISensFanI]

I don't know if the roster is garbage: the top 6 is shaping up well and Cowen - Ceci is a good pairing

The problem is that the top 6 remains young and inconsistent and the number 2 gaping hole on D


Those are serious issues that coaching can't do anything about

Cowen is looking better this year, but he is still a 3rd pairing Dman. Michalek is useless, Chiasson sucks, Neil is a plug, Gryba doesn't move his feet or is just insanely slow, Phillips is an ooouuf, Greening Garbage, Hoff Turris and Karl are all too soft.

Don't get me wrong I love the sens but damn, I could go all day

 

[Rand0m]

So offense under Maclean was not an issue but the defense was

Now, under Cameron, scoring is a big problem

As the season goes I think we'll start to see how important Paul's system was

At the end of the day the problem was the roster, not the coach

Let me get this straight, offense wasn't the problem yet the team was still losing on a consistent basis. New coach comes in tightens up the defence and you're already declaring that Offence is terrible? You know what else has already changed? The shots against and for. The team has ran into 3 really strong goalie performances (Price, Holtby and Howard) recently. When facing an average (maybe below average) goalie (Bryz) they scored in bunches against the top team in the league.

Another positive thing is that lines are now given a chance to develop proper chemistry. The lines have been very consistent since Cameron took over. Ryan-Zibby-Hoffman are really clicking well and hopefully MacArthur just got out of his slump and the Mac-Turris-Stone line looks to be getting back on track.

Heck, he's even gotten some excellent play out of Condra and is using him appropriately as a defensive specialist. (Greening is definitely a lost cause though)

Overall, the sample size is short but things are looking good.

Worth noting as well that this team is very young, the young players need to get experience by playing and MacLean relied too heavily on his vets despite not getting any success with the anyway. Young players make mistakes but they can learn from them. And the best part of this season? Even if they can't fully put it together, they'll get a great draft pick.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

I'm feeling pretty positive about the Senators: they played a great game against one of the best teams in the East last night after a long break

Sure the sample size is small in terms of offense under Cameron but that doesn't change the fact that our offense hasn't been very good since we've managed to limit the other team's chances

 

[StefanW]

There is normally a small bump up in play when a coaching change happened. This is due to guys having a blank slate and trying to prove themselves so they have more time going forward.

I believe we have seen the team play a bit better overall under Cameron, but the hard results (points) are not looking any better.

When a team falters one of the first big moves a team makes is to fire the coach. However, that does not change the talent level of the players on the roster.

 

[DylanSensFan]

So offense under Maclean was not an issue but the defense was

Now, under Cameron, scoring is a big problem

As the season goes I think we'll start to see how important Paul's system was

At the end of the day the problem was the roster, not the coach

I don't think our offense is a problem. I think they are learning a new system and that is the only thing stopping our offense right now. The Ducks game proved what can happen when we are on our game.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

I don't think our offense is a problem. I think they are learning a new system and that is the only thing stopping our offense right now. The Ducks game proved what can happen when we are on our game.

Meh

That was mostly Bryzgalov being terrible

Outside of that game I think the game against Buffalo was the only other one where we managed to score more than two goals under Cameron

 

[Super Cake]

Sens probably took more risks under Maclean, so that is probably why they got more scoring opportunities.

Under Cameron, they are probably tightening up more which leads to less scoring opportunities.

I would rather the Cameron way of doing things honestly. Just need to find our offense and we would be good to go.

 

[Rand0m]

Speaking of offence, since Cameron took over (also considering they've played, LA, Anaheim, Montreal and Detroit, by no means lower tier teams).


GF: 22
GA: 23

So let's not act like they're not generating ANY offense.

 

[starling]

So, what's the deal with MacLean hanging around for the sens games? Did Melnyk throw in season ticket as part of his contract?