Mackinnon Vs Matthews
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Jarey Curry
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Not would have!
It wasn't long ago when Matthews did win this very poll I created.... Actually dominated. They are pretty much same tier hockey players with different special abilities. Franchise centers and mature young stars. The stats of Matthews year 2 over MacKinnons year 2 doesn't change those facts, it just means their careers went different routes. MacKinnon had bumps in his career. Matthews will have bumps in his career.
Matthews right now and Matthews future.There is only one player in the league that I would take, going forward, before Matthews and that player isn't
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MacKinnon has a sustainable PDO and he's more involved in team scoring than Matthews.
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Why? Do you actually think MacKinnon is that much better than Matthews?
It's strange how quickly opinions shift on HFBoards. I'm not saying MacKinnon isn't great, because he is, and it's awesome to see him on his way to reaching his potential, but let's not pretend like he's on a whole other level above Matthews.
If MacKinnon replicates his first half in the second half, he’s going to win the Hart. The same isn’t true for Matthews. It isn’t that MacKinnon is a much better player. It’s that it should be clear that he’s playing better right now. He’s just having an unreal season.
cgf
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Moving forward you are complete correct. But MacKinnon has been even better than he was ever hyped to be even by some of the most hyperbolic statements of admiration during his rookie year. If this continues through the end of the year then he actually will have managed to have hit a level even higher than Matthews'...at least for this one year, which again says nothing definitive about the future when we're comparing a 22 yo & a 20 yo. Even with how good these two already are they're still babies and will probably still be key players when we're entering the 2030s.
That said I'm in full agreement that no one should be surprised this is close, even with how superhuman MacK has been since those 10 games with the Duchene-cloud still hanging over everything...though the longer MacK's form continues the wider the poll results should become.
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He’s missed a total of 7 games due to concussion.
Christ, it sounds like some of you want the kids brain to be mush. These boards are sickening sometimes.
Incognito
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I can definitely agree with all of this. Going forward, I think Matthews and MacKinnon are likely going to be on a similar level, but as of right now, you could absolutely make a strong case that MacKinnon has been the best player in the league so far this year, and if he keeps it up, I agree that he should be in the running for the Hart. Either way, I'm happy to see both of them playing at such high levels, because it benefits me both as a Leafs fan (Matthews), and a Team Canada fan (MacKinnon).
What's so funny about Matthews being better than Scheifele? Hard work and dedication can only take you so far against a superior talent who is also very hardworking and dedicated.
cgf
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I mean he has been outplaying them this season. It's been an absolute treat to watch.
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One of the few times I can go with a Leaf's player and not feel like a homer.
I'll say Matthews. Matthews has missed time and he has Nylander on his RW which we'll put as a draw with Rantanen for argument's sake. Matthews never really hits 20 minutes a night and the LW he has in Hyman isn't even in the same league as Landeskog.
I'll say Matthews. Matthews has missed time and he has Nylander on his RW which we'll put as a draw with Rantanen for argument's sake. Matthews never really hits 20 minutes a night and the LW he has in Hyman isn't even in the same league as Landeskog.
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I don't think so bud. Mack is having a better season than McDavid had last season, statistically. Also, Oilers are sitting pretty in the lottery. AVS are in a playoff spot.
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You can make the argument Mack is playing better than McDavid right now but I don't think anyone will buy the argument that he is better.
Jarey Curry
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But he will challenge McDavid soon IF he repeats this next season
Maplebeasts
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What does on ice save percentage (the part of PDO that favours Matthews) have to do with offensive production?
Maplebeasts
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Lol. Just read through this thread and I must say, I found it pretty amusing haha. Quite a bit of insecurity being slung around from "certain" posters. To answer the question, up to this point in the 2017-2018 NHL Season (just to make things clear to not hurt anyone's feelings), MacK has been a better/more important player/catalyst to his team.
That said, unless MacK makes this his norm, I can definitely understand peoples skepticism as from a pure numbers (offensive production) side, MacK's last few seasons have been rather underwhelming. As others have stated, this wasn't really the topic of this poll but I just thought I'd add it in there. To say that MacK has been the better player than Matthews up to this point of the current season isn't even a slight to Matthews who is a stellar player in his own right, it's just recognizing the season that MacK has had.
To anyone who might want to rip my head off for my comments, I'd also like to point out that if we're considering their careers up to this point, I have Matthews quite a bit ahead as far as total value is concerned and the player I'd rather build around. That won't change unless, like I mentioned before hand, MacK proves that this is his coming out party to the player that he will be for years to come.
That said, unless MacK makes this his norm, I can definitely understand peoples skepticism as from a pure numbers (offensive production) side, MacK's last few seasons have been rather underwhelming. As others have stated, this wasn't really the topic of this poll but I just thought I'd add it in there. To say that MacK has been the better player than Matthews up to this point of the current season isn't even a slight to Matthews who is a stellar player in his own right, it's just recognizing the season that MacK has had.
To anyone who might want to rip my head off for my comments, I'd also like to point out that if we're considering their careers up to this point, I have Matthews quite a bit ahead as far as total value is concerned and the player I'd rather build around. That won't change unless, like I mentioned before hand, MacK proves that this is his coming out party to the player that he will be for years to come.
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