Value of: MacKinnon to NYR

[cgf]

Well, it's nice to see Detroit/Colorado is still a thing.

It’s only really still a thing in Detroit. We care a lot more about our rivalry with Minny now-a-days.

 

[Goulet17]

Although I will say the notion that the Rangers literally couldn't make an offer is an exaggeration.

They could do Kreider + Hayes + Kravtsov + Miller + a 1st if they wanted to be stupid.

Again, that does nothing for the Avs right now, but it's an outstanding offer.

I suppose in a vacuum without any consideration of contract status, but Hayes is a pending UFA in less than 4 months and Kreider only has one year remaining after this. I don't believe that they would be considered outstanding pieces for an under-25 year No. 1 center with multiple years remaining under contract. It seems strange to gloss over that fact in my mind.

 

[Machinehead]

I suppose in a vacuum without any consideration of contract status, but Hayes is a pending UFA in less than 4 months and Kreider only has one year remaining after this. I don't believe that they would be considered outstanding pieces for an under-25 year No. 1 center with multiple years remaining under contract. It seems strange to gloss over that fact in my mind.

No, like I said, there's mitigating factors here.

But comments to the effect of "I wouldn't take their entire team, their arena, Kristpas Porzingis, Aaron Judge, Mayor De Blasio, and the Statue of Libery for MacKinnon" are unnecessarily salty.

 

[leetch99]

This thread needs @bernmeister

Good topic for a discussion on a slow day in January . MacKinnon rowling with his coach....Avs one win 3 weeks ? Rangers rebuilding . Players get dealt all the time . I think every fan at some point has thought...hmm....never saw that one coming . Unhappy superstars tend to have the trump card in these situations . Yes...they likely would fire the coach first....but what if it runs deeper then that which is always a possibility . The Avs are terrible after a great start .

 

[Hasbro]

I wonder if Joe has had any experience regarding management siding with the coach instead of the star and how that turned out...

 

[Machinehead]

Good topic for a discussion on a slow day in January . MacKinnon rowling with his coach....Avs one win 3 weeks ? Rangers rebuilding . Players get dealt all the time . I think every fan at some point has thought...hmm....never saw that one coming . Unhappy superstars tend to have the trump card in these situations . Yes...they likely would fire the coach first....but what if it runs deeper then that which is always a possibility . The Avs are terrible after a great start .

There's plenty of deals we never saw coming, but when's the last time a real, legit megastar talent was traded in his prime?

Seguin broke out after he was traded, and Subban was dealt for what was seen around the league as an equivalent talent.

Maybe Hall? 80 points for the Oilers? Still, not a top 3-5 player in the game prior to the trade. None of these guys were.

The last bonafide top 5 player I can recall being traded is Joe Thornton.

 

[Wingsfan 4 life]

Well, it's nice to see Detroit/Colorado is still a thing.

It hasn't been a thing for over a decade, although you'd think otherwise if you looked at the first Larkin thread. Stupid threads happen regardless of rivalry.

 

[Foppberg]

No. Never. Nothing you can offer is enough.

 

[dahrougem2]

Sure, here's a trade for the Rangers:

Nathan MacKinnon

for

Mika Zibanejad
Pavel Buchnevich
Filip Chytil
Brady Skjei
Lias Andersson
2019 1st
2020 1st

Otherwise, nothing to discuss.

 

[edguy]

This would never happen.

From a GM's perspective, one should retain a top 5 player in the world over a coach who is much more easily replaceable.

Clearly you don't know Eugene Melnyk and Pierre Dorion

But on topic, Mack is going no where. Sakic would be beyond crazy to move him.

 

[a mangy Meowth]

Sure, here's a trade for the Rangers:

Nathan MacKinnon

for

Mika Zibanejad
Pavel Buchnevich
Filip Chytil
Brady Skjei
Lias Andersson
2019 1st
2020 1st

Otherwise, nothing to discuss.

I'd still pass.

 

[Machinehead]

I'd still pass.

Well of course. Who wants to get stuck with Brady Skjei?

 

[dahrougem2]

I'd still pass.

I probably would, too, even after posting it.

Literally nothing on the Rangers excites me

 

[cgf]

No, like I said, there's mitigating factors here.

But comments to the effect of "I wouldn't take their entire team, their arena, Kristpas Porzingis, Aaron Judge, Mayor De Blasio, and the Statue of Libery for MacKinnon" are unnecessarily salty.

*Kristaps

 

[cgf]

Sure, here's a trade for the Rangers:

Nathan MacKinnon

for

Mika Zibanejad
Pavel Buchnevich
Filip Chytil
Brady Skjei
Lias Andersson
2019 1st
2020 1st

Otherwise, nothing to discuss.

Ewww. Make that K'Andre, not Skjei, if they want Joe to even call them back...

...oh and we'd need the traditional 2nd round pick that gets every HF-deal across the finish line

 

[Machinehead]

*Kristaps

I had a stroke there.

This the type of shit that exposure to Skjei causes.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Although I will say the notion that the Rangers literally couldn't make an offer is an exaggeration.

They could do Kreider + Hayes + Kravtsov + Miller + a 1st if they wanted to be stupid.

Again, that does nothing for the Avs right now, but it's an outstanding offer.

Sure they could make that offer

and the Avs would not take it.

 

[Machinehead]

Sure they could make that offer

and the Avs would not take it.

They probably wouldn't take anybody's offer except Edmonton's.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

I think NJ could make a pretty damn good offer

not that they would ever do it, but yeah.

 

[AdmiralsFan24]

I love that the premise of this thread is that the Avs would keep Bednar over MacKinnon if the relationship went so far south that it couldn't be repaired.

 

[The Abusement Park]

Although I will say the notion that the Rangers literally couldn't make an offer is an exaggeration.

They could do Kreider + Hayes + Kravtsov + Miller + a 1st if they wanted to be stupid.

Again, that does nothing for the Avs right now, but it's an outstanding offer.

Meh. A bunch of teams could make a significantly better off than that.

 

[Machinehead]

Meh. A bunch of teams could make a significantly better off than that.

Not arguing against that.

 

[Super Hans]

It’s only really still a thing in Detroit. We care a lot more about our rivalry with Minny now-a-days.

The "Red Wings Suck" chants in the Pepsi Center when they're playing any other team beg to differ. If either teams' fans haven't moved on, it's the Avs.

 

[Muffin]

Only way MacKinnon is going anywhere is if 97 is coming back the other way. That's not even a no brainer for me, we're talking [email protected] vs [email protected].

 

[north49er]

Coach gets fired before MacKinnon gets traded

Love watching the AV's but missed this game. Does anyone know what ticked MacKinnon off?