Confirmed with Link: Mackenze Stewart will not receive a qualifying offer

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Waste of a pick then and definitely is now - it’s a trend our expert scouting GM has kept going since he’s been here.
 

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Still crazy that he even got an ELC, he would've incredibly lucky to even sniff being a regular in the AHL.
 

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Obviously a wasted pick, but that's not that unusual for this team. The Canucks seem to love throwing away late picks on guys who don't have a hope in hell of becoming quality players rather than gambling on skill guys with warts.

What was absolutely baffling though was that he actually got a pro contract. The Canucks ended up paying him over $300K USD to play an overage year in the WHL and then struggle for a couple of years in the ECHL. Might as well have flushed that money down the toilet. Good for him though, if he was smart with his money he could be in pretty good shape for a guy in his early 20s.
 

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I remember so many on the Daily Hive facebook page (comments section) kept arguing with me about this guy. They were saying that Stewart was exactly what this team needs and that he'll be a key piece of our defense for years to come, that we needed his toughness and he'll be great for us. :laugh:

Waste of a draft pick, and a waste of a contract spot for the last 3 years.
 
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One of the more perplexing scenarios in recent memory. But the franchise made it through to the other side, something that seemed in doubt reading reactions around here after the draft/signing.

Actually, no. This signing was one of the earliest markers that indicated that the morons in our front office had no clue, and this has borne itself out with 3 bottom-of-the-league finishes since.

As many of us said at the time, the signing itself wasn't going to hurt us, but it was a very bad sign about the people in charge and that has proven to be very true.
 

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Drafting a 4th liner in the CHL assuming he can be a 4th liner in the NHL is a fools errand and about as big of a moon shot as you can possibly take at the draft. Not to mention how flagrantly irresponsible it is to try and draft guys who project to be bottom 6 forwards at best.

Truly incredible that he got a contract—and really puts to rest this weird pat on the back Canucks marketing is doing over signing 5 of our 2017 draft picks already. Signing a bunch of your prospects doesn't mean they are good.
 

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One of the more perplexing scenarios in recent memory. But the franchise made it through to the other side, something that seemed in doubt reading reactions around here after the draft/signing.

Ridiculous post. Nobody ever claimed the franchise was going to fold because of this shockingly poor small decision.

However, people did claim that this move was Rosetta Stone for how bad this management group actually was, which has proved to be 100% correct.
 

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Drafting a 4th liner in the CHL assuming he can be a 4th liner in the NHL is a fools errand and about as big of a moon shot as you can possibly take at the draft. Not to mention how flagrantly irresponsible it is to try and draft guys who project to be bottom 6 forwards at best.

Truly incredible that he got a contract—and really puts to rest this weird pat on the back Canucks marketing is doing over signing 5 of our 2017 draft picks already. Signing a bunch of your prospects doesn't mean they are good.

To be fair, they did seem to learn from the experience, as evidenced by not offering a contract to either of Carl Neill nor Tate Olsen, both of whom were easily better CHL defense prospects than Stewart.

It is pretty sad that they needed to learn this lesson but at least they did.
 
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Actually, no. This signing was one of the earliest markers that indicated that the morons in our front office had no clue, and this has borne itself out with 3 bottom-of-the-league finishes since.

As many of us said at the time, the signing itself wasn't going to hurt us, but it was a very bad sign about the people in charge and that has proven to be very true.

You didn't see these bottom finishes happening as the Sedins declined? That's too bad, cuz it was pretty obvious and everyone else did ((see Ryan Kesler's comments for confirmation).

Regardless of whether you could recognize the obvious, gonna go out on a limb and say this signing had less impact than the decade or so of drafting from the Dead Sea. YMMV.
 
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You didn't see these bottom finishes happening as the Sedins declined? That's too bad, cuz it was pretty obvious and everyone else did ((see Ryan Kesler's comments for confirmation).

Regardless of whether you could recognize the obvious, gonna go out on a limb and say this signing had less impact than the decade or so of drafting from the Dead Sea. YMMV.

Not taking the bait. Nice try though. A for effort.

A front office who thinks MacKenze Stewart is worth a contract is a front office that likely doesn't know what it is doing. That is what people said and they have proven to be 125% correct.
 
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You didn't see these bottom finishes happening as the Sedins declined? That's too bad, cuz it was pretty obvious and everyone else did ((see Ryan Kesler's comments for confirmation).

Regardless of whether you could recognize the obvious, gonna go out on a limb and say this signing had less impact than the decade or so of drafting from the Dead Sea. YMMV.
meh, who gives a ****. There's a thread for that debate.

This one is about a late round pick. Good thing about not qualifying is that it frees up an otherwise wasted contract slot. Would've been a nice feel good story had the pick worked out but we didn't need to use up contract slot on that (don't care that much about the pick itself - it was a pretty late pick after all).
 

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Obviously a wasted pick, but that's not that unusual for this team. The Canucks seem to love throwing away late picks on guys who don't have a hope in hell of becoming quality players rather than gambling on skill guys with warts.

What was absolutely baffling though was that he actually got a pro contract. The Canucks ended up paying him over $300K USD to play an overage year in the WHL and then struggle for a couple of years in the ECHL. Might as well have flushed that money down the toilet. Good for him though, if he was smart with his money he could be in pretty good shape for a guy in his early 20s.

The pro contract is the type of decision, that if I was the owner, I'd wonder if some scouts or decision makers got a $ kickback. It's either complete ineptitude, or something fishy going on.
 

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Drafting a 4th liner in the CHL assuming he can be a 4th liner in the NHL is a fools errand and about as big of a moon shot as you can possibly take at the draft. Not to mention how flagrantly irresponsible it is to try and draft guys who project to be bottom 6 forwards at best.

Truly incredible that he got a contract—and really puts to rest this weird pat on the back Canucks marketing is doing over signing 5 of our 2017 draft picks already. Signing a bunch of your prospects doesn't mean they are good.

He was actually drafted as a Dman with the idea that he could be converted to forward and after a year step into the AHL. Terrible signing. Time to forget about him.
 

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To be fair, they did seem to learn from the experience, as evidenced by not offering a contract to either of Carl Neill nor Tate Olsen, both of whom were easily better CHL defense prospects than Stewart.

It is pretty sad that they needed to learn this lesson but at least they did.

Rather than learning the lesson by upper management the impression I get is that we have some more competent people having their voice heard in the room. When Benning first took over he quuckly turfed the prior regimes top guys, and it seemed like him, Linden, Wiesbrod, and Desjardins were primarily running the show. Now things have settled and we have guys like Brackett and Green in more prominant roles.
 
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