Value of: LW James van Riemsdyk for Top Four Defenceman

[McMatthews]

Only stipulation is that the defenceman coming back has to be relatively young (<30).

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[Albus Dumbledore]

idk who jvr can return tbh... not sure if leafs can even move him, hes one of the few veteran leaders on the team and only good lw we have on the entire team, mm9, martin are ..... and nylander is only there temporarily. If leafs think leipsic or kapanen are ready then maybe otherwise, leafs hold on to jvr imo.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

The Rangers have the defenseman you're looking for, top pairing guy Nick Holden. Guys been in the top four, and played on the top pairing all the season. And he's under 30.

Fax the paper work over from your people to my people, JVR will be a great Ranger

 

[rynryn]

Wild would probably swap Scandella. But then we're still at risk of losing another top four D in the expansion draft. so suddenly we're hurting for D.

but it'd be hard to pass up.

 

[Glenn Isildur Healy]

The Rangers have the defenseman you're looking for, top pairing guy Nick Holden. Guys been in the top four, and played on the top pairing all the season. And he's under 30.

Fax the paper work over from your people to my people, JVR will be a great Ranger

Done! No takebacks!

 

[McMatthews]

Done! No takebacks!

Ummm, no.

The Maple Leafs are not trading JVR for Nick Holden.

 

[Albus Dumbledore]

Wild would probably swap Scandella. But then we're still at risk of losing another top four D in the expansion draft. so suddenly we're hurting for D.

but it'd be hard to pass up.

Scandella has missed quite a few games over the years, healthy scratch, injured or what, just curious?

 

[Glenn Isildur Healy]

Ummm, no.

The Maple Leafs are not trading JVR for Nick Holden.

Then I don't think you've ever seen the great Nick Holden play before

 

[McMatthews]

Then I don't think you've ever seen the great Nick Holden play before

I know what Nick Holden is. It's not worth giving up JVR.

 

[rynryn]

Scandella has missed quite a few games over the years, healthy scratch, injured or what, just curious?

He was a...average bloomer i guess for D. the cliche goes they take longer to develop. he really only got going 3 seasons ago as a 23 year old. he had just the normal assortment of "upper body" and "lower body" injuries. nothing recurring.

 

[Albus Dumbledore]

He was a...average bloomer i guess for D. the cliche goes they take longer to develop. he really only got going 3 seasons ago as a 23 year old. he had just the normal assortment of "upper body" and "lower body" injuries. nothing recurring.

I see, whats his game like? he seems to have some offense in him, leafs really need a right shot two way dman, hes left shot which isnt the worse thing i suppose.

 

[Halla]

The Rangers have the defenseman you're looking for, top pairing guy Nick Holden. Guys been in the top four, and played on the top pairing all the season. And he's under 30.

Fax the paper work over from your people to my people, JVR will be a great Ranger

leafs counter with brooks laich

 

[rynryn]

I see, whats his game like? he seems to have some offense in him, leafs really need a right shot two way dman, hes left shot which isnt the worse thing i suppose.

Good all around D. Not brilliant in anything but has a cannon of a shot. He hadn't been using his sized consistently but small sample size this year under new coaches he's been going for hits more. I think Yeo laid good groundwork with him in forcing him to play a rigid structure, and now Stevens is encouraging him to experiment a little. IIRC he's pretty clutch--a good chunk of his points are on game winners.

 

[Halla]

Wild would probably swap Scandella. But then we're still at risk of losing another top four D in the expansion draft. so suddenly we're hurting for D.

but it'd be hard to pass up.

scandella doesnt bring back JVR. leafs probably ask for Dumba

 

[rynryn]

scandella doesnt bring back JVR. leafs probably ask for Dumba

m'kay. at this point Scandella is better than Dumba though. Do the leafs want to win? I was under the assumption you wanted someone who was good at the defensive side of the game.

 

[McMatthews]

m'kay. at this point Scandella is better than Dumba though. Do the leafs want to win? I was under the assumption you wanted someone who was good at the defensive side of the game.

Either Jonas Brodin or Matthew Dumba for JVR, in a trade.

Scandella is likely not in the discussion.

 

[Halla]

m'kay. at this point Scandella is better than Dumba though. Do the leafs want to win? I was under the assumption you wanted someone who was good at the defensive side of the game.

they arent really trying that hard to win now (all the rookies)
they would take the upside of dumba over scandellas current worth

 

[rynryn]

I really don't know right now if pressured. I'm dying to see what Stevens can do with them all individually as they've all three been a little disappointing in one facet or another of their game (Brodin-offense, Scandella-physicality, Dumba-decision making)

handful of games in and Brodin is shooting more, Scandella is hitting people, and Dumba...is still erratic but that guy has a skillset unique in our system. he did very well paired with Suter tonight and played 26 minutes.

 

[BatVader]

If TO was willing to part with JVR for a Dman, then Fowler would have been a Leaf already.

 

[McMatthews]

If TO was willing to part with JVR for a Dman, then Fowler would have been a Leaf already.

This season is the first time it has made sense to trade JVR.

The Maple Leafs have at least 15 wingers in the organization that are either ready or near-ready to play in the NHL.

 

[Djp]

If TO was willing to part with JVR for a Dman, then Fowler would have been a Leaf already.

No..Anaheim doesn't have the cap room in a fowler for jvr trade.

 

[Halla]

No..Anaheim doesn't have the cap room in a fowler for jvr trade.

they actually do, JVR is only 250k more.
it doesnt help them sign lindholm though, unless the leafs took back stoner. then the ducks would have to add a good prospect or 2nd+3rd

 

[McMatthews]

To Toronto: Cam Fowler + Clayton Stoner + 2nd Round Pick
To Anaheim: James van Riemsdyk + Matt Hunwick

Anaheim saves almost $2.5M in cap space, when you consider the F they send down and the difference in salary between Stoner and Hunwick.

 

[jaric1862]

To Toronto: Cam Fowler + Clayton Stoner + 2nd Round Pick
To Anaheim: James van Riemsdyk + Matt Hunwick

Anaheim saves almost $2.5M in cap space, when you consider the F they send down and the difference in salary between Stoner and Hunwick.

Hmm i like this. I would think switching Hunwick to Corrado would help the ducks much more though, since he only has a cap hit of 600k. I like that deal though as a leafs fan.

Something like JVR+Corrado for Fowler+Stoner+Pick

 

[McMatthews]

Hmm i like this. I would think switching Hunwick to Corrado would help the ducks much more though, since he only has a cap hit of 600k. I like that deal though as a leafs fan.

Something like JVR+Corrado for Fowler+Stoner+Pick

JVR + Hunwick for Fowler + Stoner allows Anaheim to sign Hampus Lindholm for $6M.

Corrado instead of Hunwick would give them more flexibility for sure.