Prospect Info: Luke Tuch

[Ezpz]

There are only a handful of guys drafted after him that will play regularly in the NHL. Not sure what you expect here.

I don't expect anything. I think he's a C+ prospect.

 

[417]

He'd be perfect. I just don't get why he doesn't want to sign.

There's no indication he doesn't

 

[417]

It’s the optics. Who is he to demand anything? What veteran that’s been with you all season are you healthy scratching to make room for a grinder? At least all the guys know who Lane is, he was up for a Hobey Baker before and was breaking records. Tuch is just some average NCAA player.

He's not “demanding” anything that isn't available for him to have.

If the Habs don't want to give it to him then they shouldn't and he can risk finding another team who will, which is far from a guarantee.

 

[Runner77]

It's possible Tuch feels that way. But it hasn't stopped American drafted players like Caufield, Harris, Struble, Primeau, and just recently Hutson from signing their ELC's with Habs.

Reason no. 1 for a team like the Habs (fishbowl, rapacious and unscrupulous media, taxes, weather etc) have to prioritize homegrown talent.

It’s far easier to get them to stay here if they’ve started their careers here.

Not the same ballgame when you’re competing for players who are free to go anywhere they want and typically use us to get a better deal in the sunbelt or other destination of preference.

Given the high success ratio of getting NCAA players to sign here, can’t think of a better way to guarantee incoming talent. You can’t build a successful team by overly relying on trades and free agency — the foregoing ought to be principally complementary strategies, as we’ve seen with the league’s best teams.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

He's not “demanding” anything that isn't available for him to have.

If the Habs don't want to give it to him then they shouldn't and he can risk finding another team who will, which is far from a guarantee.

It also may very well be that he will not come regardless of whether or not Montreal gives him the max allowable salary+ offer. I think this is more about Tuch exercising autonomy than being hung up on any one detail in negotiations.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

Reason no. 1 for a team like the Habs (fishbowl, rapacious and unscrupulous media, taxes, weather etc) have to prioritize homegrown talent.

It’s far easier to get them to stay here if they’ve started their careers here.

Not the same ballgame when you’re competing for players who are free to go anywhere they want and typically use us to get a better deal in the sunbelt or other destination of preference.

Given the high success ratio of getting NCAA players to sign here, can’t think of a better way to guarantee incoming talent. You can’t build a successful team by overly relying on trades and free agency — the foregoing ought to be principally complementary strategies, as we’ve seen with the league’s best teams.

You would also have to believe that to some degree, the presence of two of the greatest American NCAA players in the last 5 years and Kent Hughes' connections to NCAA hockey have to play an enticing role for players in Tuch's situation. I am sure that there is an allure to sign with his brother's organization but there is also a similar type of allure to follow Lane to Montreal and trust Kent Hughes to treat him well. There may also be some familiarity with Nicholas who has USNTDP ties.

 

[salbutera]

Reason no. 1 for a team like the Habs (fishbowl, rapacious and unscrupulous media, taxes, weather etc) have to prioritize homegrown talent.

It’s far easier to get them to stay here if they’ve started their careers here.

Not the same ballgame when you’re competing for players who are free to go anywhere they want and typically use us to get a better deal in the sunbelt or other destination of preference.

Given the high success ratio of getting NCAA players to sign here, can’t think of a better way to guarantee incoming talent. You can’t build a successful team by overly relying on trades and free agency — the foregoing ought to be principally complementary strategies, as we’ve seen with the league’s best teams.

That’s all nice, but Quebec hockey development system sucks, even the few homegrown players that have NHL talent are starting to bolt to the US prep & college to develop:

Alex Kilorn, Chiasson, Matheson, Levi

so fewer & fewer homegrown are even making NHL and more & more of those few are opting for USA hockey as development path to NHL

 

[Leto]

That’s all nice, but Quebec hockey development system sucks, even the few homegrown players that have NHL talent are starting to bolt to the US prep & college to develop:

Alex Kilorn, Chiasson, Matheson, Levi

so fewer & fewer homegrown are even making NHL and more & more are opting for USA hockey as development path to NHL

With how Marek & Friedman are talking about it, it's a matter of time before the NCAA opens its doors to CHL players. With that, the NCAA will be at the top of the pyramid of development and homegrown talents will systematically flow through the collegiate circuit.​

 

[Runner77]

That’s all nice, but Quebec hockey development system sucks, even the few homegrown players that have NHL talent are starting to bolt to the US prep & college to develop:

Alex Kilorn, Chiasson, Matheson, Levi

so fewer & fewer homegrown are even making NHL and more & more of those few are opting for USA hockey as development path to NHL

My bad for using “homegrown” instead of “drafted and developed by the Habs”. Locally born players always garner fan interest but as you stated, they’re in short supply.

 

[montreal]

Luke's Tuch's last 3 seasons in the NCAA,

'21-'22 - 10 pts
'22-'23 - 20 pts
'23-'24 - 30 pts

it's too bad he didn't go back for a 5th year to try and get 40 pts.