I'm not going to debate with you, it isn't worth the hassle. Getting a player of Muzzin's caliber for a 1st+Grundy+Durzi was a very fair market value trade. Nothing about any of the players Blake received in the deal proves he won anything at this point.
Just for poops and giggles though, what happens if the Leafs re-sign Muzzin (talks happening right now)? Does that change your opinion?
HaveYou replied to me. I said i would not be expecting Blake to let Canpbell go cheaply knowing the leafs desperately need a back up goalie. And based on his trade record. That’s my opinion.Blake is not in the business of doing Dubas favours. He is the one that didn’t address the goaltending. Now he is. There will be a price to be paid.
I am didn’t I say the Leafs are desperate for goaltending. That’s what we are discussing here. Blake knows this. Every Gm knows this. Won’t come cheaply.Have
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It was a straight up hockey deal that addressed both teams needs in their situations. there doesn't always need to be one GM stomping on another's throat.I agree with you. As a kings fan I love the deal but that does not mean it was a loss for the leafs. You can't steal 2nd with your foot on first.
Thanks for your input. Have a great day.I am didn’t I say the Leafs are desperate for goaltending. That’s what we are discussing here. Blake knows this. Every Gm knows this. Won’t come cheaply.
Kings are rebuilding. They were written up with the best farm system in the NHL recently. I have to think Blake is looking on building on that. Campbell is signed for 2 years. I wonder what the price will be to let him go?I agree with you. As a kings fan I love the deal but that does not mean it was a loss for the leafs. You can't steal 2nd with your foot on first.
My god...we must be close to the same age...LOL. And no, i didn't attend Brock, i do respect anyone going to post secondary though.
As you should...it's our duty!!My wife got her BA in Education from Brock. Did I ridicule her?
I sure did.
Not gonna lie I liked their chances at the beginning but thought they were too soft. I think Dubas only sees run and gun talent and doesn't realize you need grit to. The hard part is done loads of talent but sometimes you gotta sacrifice some talent for character. They need to trade some of their middle 6 guys like Johnsson and Kapanen unless they wanna move Nylander for a bigger fish on Defense. I don't see or expect them to move any of the big three or Rielly. Good luck.
i will add Engvall and Hyman...not bruisers, but not afraid to mix it up either.Jake Muzzin says hi.
Do you honestly believe that all GM's try to conspire against Dubas and want to screw him over? Seriously though you seem to forget that in the Jake Muzzin trade Toronto still got him without giving up Sandin or Liljegren who the media and everyone else called Toronto's two top prospects and it was said to get Muzzin that Dubas would need to trade either one of them. So if Toronto did trade for Jack Campbell we would see a fair deal between Dubas and Blake.Blake and Dubas have one deal under their belt. Blake has shown already he can drive a hard bargain. I would not expect Campbell to come cheap.
I agree. I can see Kappy or AJ getting moved but Nylander is near untouchable, he will not be traded.Not gonna lie I liked their chances at the beginning but thought they were too soft. I think Dubas only sees run and gun talent and doesn't realize you need grit to. The hard part is done loads of talent but sometimes you gotta sacrifice some talent for character. They need to trade some of their middle 6 guys like Johnsson and Kapanen unless they wanna move Nylander for a bigger fish on Defense. I don't see or expect them to move any of the big three or Rielly. Good luck.
I hope they make the playoffs yet or finish bottom 10 as losing that first to Carolina will sting if it's in the 11-15 as only top ten is protected I believe.I agree. I can see Kappy or AJ getting moved but Nylander is near untouchable, he will not be traded.
My prediction is that the Leafs finish 11th in the east. Golf season early.
I am didn’t I say the Leafs are desperate for goaltending. That’s what we are discussing here. Blake knows this. Every Gm knows this. Won’t come cheaply.
Thing is goalies don't have high trade value, I don'r understand why that is but they never have.
Campbell is a backup he's not going to have high value
Even if LA really doesn't want to trade him, a 3rd rounder would be more than enough of an over-payment to get them to say yes IMO.
Yup, Top 10 protected. Watch Carolina get the 11th overall pick!I hope they make the playoffs yet or finish bottom 10 as losing that first to Carolina will sting if it's in the 11-15 as only top ten is protected I believe.
You replied to me. I said i would not be expecting Blake to let Canpbell go cheaply knowing the leafs desperately need a back up goalie. And based on his trade record. That’s my opinion.Blake is not in the business of doing Dubas favours. He is the one that didn’t address the back up goaltending situation. Now he is. There will be a price to be paid when you are a GM that reacts rather than a proactive gm.
Was he really? He's going to be paid 1.65m next year. For that amount of money had Dubas prioritized signing a capable back up last summer, it wouldn't have costed 2 third rd picks, and Moore. The point is, these caliber of goalies are available as UFA's had Dubas not gambled on 700K solutions.He came pretty cheap, with Clifford 50% retained...
Was he really? He's going to be paid 1.65m next year. For that amount of money had Dubas prioritized signing a capable back up last summer, it wouldn't have costed 2 third rd picks, and Moore. The point is, these caliber of goalies are available as UFA's had Dubas not gambled on 700K solutions.