Proposal: Lucic to Arizona

[Potty John]

I propose Calgary trades Lucic, and a 2nd and a 3rd.
Arizona Trades Christian Dvorak.

thoughts? Does Calgary add more?

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[Jormungandr]

Hell no. I’d take Lucic a 2nd and a 3rd for future considerations. Just like the Gostisbehere trade.

 

[T_Cage]

Take out Dvorak and this deal is close

 

[SpeakingOfTheDevils]

For Dvorak? What?

AZ would probably do it for future considerations. But for Dvorak? You're out of your mind.

 

[The Moose is Loose]

It'll take some significant assets to make up for Lucic's negative cost, definitely a 1st.

Terrible proposal, likely wouldn't even be good enough if Dvorak was removed.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Coyotes say no easily

 

[Kai Yo T]

You forgot to add Calgary's first. Even then, I'm not so sure that makes up for taking Lucic of your hands.

 

[DFF]

You forgot to add Calgary's first. Even then, I'm not so sure that makes up for taking Lucic of your hands.

calgary is not going to give a potential lottery pick just to get rid of Lucic

but yeah the original proposal is definitely a no for Arizona

 

[JAK]

calgary is not going to give a potential lottery pick just to get rid of Lucic

but yeah the original proposal is definitely a no for Arizona

The pick would be for Dvorak.

Lucic 2nd & 3rd for cap space is barely enough, I think Flames needs to add to get rid of Lucic.

 

[HugeInTheShire]

Arizona could do a lot better for Dvorak than a 2nd a 3rd and a cap dump

 

[elitepete]

I propose Calgary trades Lucic, and a 2nd and a 3rd.
Arizona Trades Christian Dvorak.

thoughts? Does Calgary add more?

Take out Dvorak.

 

[FameFlame069]

I'd say add a 1st or Zary/Pelletier, also add another 3rd/2nd so....
Lucic
1st 22/Zary/Pelletier
2nd 23
3rd 23
3rd/2nd 24

For Dvorak

 

[rt]

Lucic+Zary for Dvorak works.

 

[smytty]

Calgary doesn't really need to move Lucic. They're paying 5.25 for him for 2 more years. A replacement for him would cost about 2.5-3 million. So they only save about 5 million by moving him. They aren't making a cup run in that time, they're better off to ride it out.

 

[rt]

Take out Dvorak.

Correct.

 

[smytty]

I'd say add a 1st or Zary/Pelletier, also add another 3rd/2nd so....
Lucic
1st 22/Zary/Pelletier
2nd 23
3rd 23
3rd/2nd 24

For Dvorak

Wow. That's the most ridiculous deal I've seen in a while. Well done.

 

[Rubi]

Lucic has a NMC. He's not going to agree to move to Glendale.
This thread is a fantasy.

 

[Double Dion]

I don't know why we keep making proposals with Lucic in them. He has a full NMC and doesn't want to move. Maybe he waives for Boston or a legit contender. No way he waives for AZ. That said, I think Dvorak is worth a late 1st alone. It probably costs a 2nd or more to move Lucic.

 

[mouser]

I propose Calgary trades Lucic, and a 2nd and a 3rd.
Arizona Trades Christian Dvorak.

thoughts? Does Calgary add more?

Lucic has $6.5m remaining in salary.

If' I'm Arizona I'd counter offer Lucic + Calgary 2022 1st round pick + 2023 3rd round pick for Future Considerations.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Flames arent interested in dumping Lucic, hes a team leader on a team that just lost their captain.

On the other hand I cant see Arizona doing this, pretty bad value

 

[Double Dion]

Lucic has $6.5m remaining in salary.

If' I'm Arizona I'd counter offer Lucic + Calgary 2022 1st round pick + 2023 3rd round pick for Future Considerations.

Over 2 years yes, but the Oilers are paying 1.5 of that, so it's 5M or 2.5M per year in actual cash. I think the Flames can move him easily after the bonus is paid next July. It'll be 250K in real cash. They'll get something for him if he will waive.

 

[Jakey53]

I propose Calgary trades Lucic, and a 2nd and a 3rd.
Arizona Trades Christian Dvorak.

thoughts? Does Calgary add more?

Do not want Lucic.

 

[rt]

Lucic has a NMC. He's not going to agree to move to Glendale.
This thread is a fantasy.

Coyotes players don't live in Glendale. They live in Scottsdale. Half of the people that live in Scottsdale are from Canada.

 

[mouser]

Over 2 years yes, but the Oilers are paying 1.5 of that, so it's 5M or 2.5M per year in actual cash. I think the Flames can move him easily after the bonus is paid next July. It'll be 250K in real cash. They'll get something for him if he will waive.

Hmm, we're actually both wrong here. Edmonton is retaining 12.5% of the contract. So that would make the remaining actual cash $5.6875m (87.5% of $6.5m)

 

[Kyungnam]

Unfortunately for the Flames, no one is gonna take Lucic off your hands for anything less than your 1st or one of your blue chip prospects. You can't buy him out, because that dead cap is garbage and you can't replace him with the savings. As an example Lucic would cost close to 4m in buyout and with the savings of about 1.5m you couldn't even afford a Tucker Poolman type contract . This is why the oilers traded him. The buy out for Neal, essentially let us afford Foegle with the savings. I believe the Flames are best off just riding it out.