Friedman: Lucic doesn't want to play in Canada anymore?

[Provorov4Norris]

You can’t retain for part of a contract.

Once more.

- Retention on Lucic (range depending on return)
- Sweeten the pot with pick OR prospect
- You send crap/trash/perma IR players back

Pick ONE. Not all three, not ‘retain 50% and we want 10th overall and we’re sending things we found when snaking the drain back’.

that may be what the Oilers want but I don't think that's reality. With 5 years left, a NMC, non-existent production and another expansion draft (for which you'll have to expose a good player to roster Lucic)....the Oilers are going to have to pay dearly to rid themselves of the worst contract in hockey.

 

[WhoTagz]

Friedman explores Lucic trade dynamics

come on down to new york we will take your bad contracts from you in exchange for some picks

 

[PB37]

Too many people counting Lucic out. The kid is a warrior and a proud man - he'll have a solid, bounce back season with around 20ish goals/45-50 points. It was just a bad year overall for a lot of Edmonton's players. While Lucic's poor play was a part of their downfall, I think he's still got something left in the tank.

 

[BigKing]

Except for Montreal and LA. Who knows what other teams reached out to him and was told that he just wasn't interested

LA did not offer a contract similar to Edmonton's or else he never would have left.

If Lombardi had the cap space then he probably would have offered something similar but, thankfully, he didn't. He offered 8 years at $34MM total. Quite the difference.

 

[Sweetpotato]

What an entitled loser. Get a contract, play like shit(and not just compared to the contract) then you want to move to somewhere because you essentially don't want accountability....

Chia will partially redeem himself if he doesn't get taken out back the wood shed in this deal.

 

[Balthazar]

After July 1st he'll make significanly less in real money than his cap hit.

this year after July 1st:
3.5M real money, 6M cap hit

then:
6M, 6M
4M, 6M
4M, 6M
5M, 6M

That could be more interesting for a budget team trying to reach the cap floor like Arizona.

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

I personally think that the Oilers should trade him to either Detroit or Carolina. Can't name a team that's willing to take on his contract and has space.

 

[Johnny McBravo]

Too many people counting Lucic out. The kid is a warrior and a proud man - he'll have a solid, bounce back season with around 20ish goals/45-50 points. It was just a bad year overall for a lot of Edmonton's players. While Lucic's poor play was a part of their downfall, I think he's still got something left in the tank.

If he can't score with an art Ross winner, is there really much hope for him left?

 

[YP44]

He probably will. Just not as an Oiler. Another "sell low" for Chiarelli.

Would welcome him back to LA. Not sure on cost though.

Dion? (I say semi-jokingly)

 

[Mackiaveli]

Friedman explores Lucic trade dynamics

As a neutral 3rd party

10th overall + Lucic for Domi

Yotes get a 10th overall and take Lucic --- Oilers get a young dynamic two-way winger.

 

[YP44]

As a Kin's fan this seems to be going the Dustin Brown route. Sometimes players fit well in certain structures and not so well in others. LA changes coaches and Brown all of a sudden regains form. Not saying the Oilers need to change their coach but just an explanation as to why this may not be working out.

 

[Johnny McBravo]

As a neutral 3rd party

10th overall + Lucic for Domi

Yotes get a 10th overall and take Lucic --- Oilers get a young dynamic two-way winger.

This is awful for the Oilers. Trading our 1st just to dump him is not a good idea. That package would also get a better return than domi.

 

[BB88]

If he can't score with an art Ross winner, is there really much hope for him left?

Not a lot, he got all the chances in the World to produce this past season, other teams wouldn't have given him those chances.

Even if he could have a good season it's too bad his contract doesn't have 1 year left, the team acquiring him has to hope he has 5 more years in him.

 

[Reaper45]

Lucic, Edm 1st and 2 mil retained for Toffoli

 

[YP44]

If he wants to go out East why would Carolina not be a good place? Sounds like Carolina wants to get tougher, they may deal Skinner so a top 6 LW spot will be open, they have boatloads of cap space and have high end defensemen to offer.

If it is a place Lucic wants to go it checks a lot of boxes IMO

 

[Sniper99]

Oilers fans chase out another player? Seems legit.

Yeah cause no other teams fans would chase out an overpaid guy who does very little on the top line for what hes being paid. Dont give me that trash.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Friedman explores Lucic trade dynamics

More interesting to me is that Friedman's been told that the Oilers think they're going to get out of this clean (no retention/bad contract in return/trade kicker.)

I'm struggling to come up with a comp for a player that should have been a negative value asset, but wasn't. Horcoff is the closest that I can think of, but he only had 2 years left on his contract when Dallas traded for him. Anyone else?

 

[winnipegger]

Past his prime power forward with no hands that is slower than 99% of the league with an albatross contract. What's not to like?

 

[MessierII]

If he can't score with an art Ross winner, is there really much hope for him left?

He had 25 points in his first 36 games this year then 9 in the next 46. One bad 46 game stretch shouldn’t erase whats been a very consistent and solid career in the nhl.

 

[Sniper99]

Looks like another reason for players to avoid Edmonton.

McDavid seems to like it here, try again.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

that may be what the Oilers want but I don't think that's reality. With 5 years left, a NMC, non-existent production and another expansion draft (for which you'll have to expose a good player to roster Lucic)....the Oilers are going to have to pay dearly to rid themselves of the worst contract in hockey.

There are worse contracts out there than Lucic, and dumping crap and getting retention and vulturing assets out of Edmonton might be what fans want but in that case we’re better off keeping him.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

If he wants to go out East why would Carolina not be a good place? Sounds like Carolina wants to get tougher, they may deal Skinner so a top 6 LW spot will be open, they have boatloads of cap space and have high end defensemen to offer.

If it is a place Lucic wants to go it checks a lot of boxes IMO

I find it doubtful that Carolina would take on a $4.5 mil x 5 year contract for a 30 year old clean, let alone giving up a "high end defenseman" to do it.

Darling and/or Rask would have to go back the other way to be viable. To give credit to Oiler fans, for the most part, they've been reasonable with their expectations of a Carolina trade.

 

[A91]

We will NOT include the 10th overall for Lucic. Rather just keep him than lose an asset that good.

 

[Little Psycho]

I don't understand the Kings fans saying that they'll take him back. Yes, he can score but his foot speed and defensive awareness is no good, it was embarrassing seeing him fumble on the blue line and makings turnovers after another. The roster is trying to get younger and faster, not the opposite. I'm thrilled Lombardi wasn't able to match his contract as much he wanted to. It was a blessing.

 

[justafan22]

More interesting to me is that Friedman's been told that the Oilers think they're going to get out of this clean (no retention/bad contract in return/trade kicker.)

I'm struggling to come up with a comp for a player that should have been a negative value asset, but wasn't. Horcoff is the closest that I can think of, but he only had 2 years left on his contract when Dallas traded for him. Anyone else?

Phaneuf. Leafs took on say a few bad contracts (but michalek, cowen, and greening only had an extra year after the current seasons that he was dealt in)