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Seems generous tbhLoui Eriksson was credited with 3 hits in 81 games.... how
Seems generous tbhLoui Eriksson was credited with 3 hits in 81 games.... how
No.Lucic + Bouchard to Vancouver for Eriksson + 10th + ????
The Canucks
1) Are in dire need of a good young RD prospect that has a strong likelihood of being a top pairing guy one day
2) Need the Kevin Costner (Lucic) to their Whitney Houstons (Pettersson and Hughes) so to speak. Absolutely no one will take liberties with the Canucks’ star players with a motivated Lucic at the helm.
The Oilers
1) Need to rid themselves of an absolutely terrible contract so that they can have a shot of making an immediate playoff push while they still have a young McDavid. Eriksson gives them that opportunity since LE’s contract is moveable (especially after next season when 31 of his 36 million will have been paid out to him and he’d only be owed 5 million in real dollars)
I think it’s a fair deal for both sides.
Oilers fans and management obviously won’t like giving up Bouchard, but they really do need to get rid of Lucic. Not only does Lucic not want to be there and is a cap drain, but his NMC will prevent him from being exposed in the Expansion draft.
Eriksson hasn’t hit 30 points for 3 years. Lucic has done it 2 of the last 3. Lucic has 104 points in that time to Eriksson’s 76. Saying Eriksson has had steady production while Lucic has declined isn’t exactly a fair summary. Lucic has declined to Eriksson level, not well below like you’re implying
Eriksson has more value though. 1 year less on his contract and doesn't need to be protected. He is also better defensively and contributes a little more offensively. Lucic + Bouchard is not worth Eriksson + 10oa, let alone adding to that on Vancouvers end.So is Eriksson. Everyone already knows that Lucic sucks and is overpaid. That's why you're getting a blue-chip prospect coming back.
I wouldn't do it from an Oilers perspective. There isn't a RHD in the entire draft that is better than Bouchard.
Lucic + Bouchard to Vancouver for Eriksson + 10th + ????
The Canucks
1) Are in dire need of a good young RD prospect that has a strong likelihood of being a top pairing guy one day
2) Need the Kevin Costner (Lucic) to their Whitney Houstons (Pettersson and Hughes) so to speak. Absolutely no one will take liberties with the Canucks’ star players with a motivated Lucic at the helm.
The Oilers
1) Need to rid themselves of an absolutely terrible contract so that they can have a shot of making an immediate playoff push while they still have a young McDavid. Eriksson gives them that opportunity since LE’s contract is moveable (especially after next season when 31 of his 36 million will have been paid out to him and he’d only be owed 5 million in real dollars)
I think it’s a fair deal for both sides.
Oilers fans and management obviously won’t like giving up Bouchard, but they really do need to get rid of Lucic. Not only does Lucic not want to be there and is a cap drain, but his NMC will prevent him from being exposed in the Expansion draft.
There is no chance Edmonton does this. Would the Canucks trade their top prospect to get rid of Eriksson in a different trade? Think about it.
Lucic had one decent season with Edmonton then his play fell off a cliff (and has gotten worse each season). Eriksson's play got worse immediately when he joined the Canucks, but he's produced at roughly a 30 pt per 82 games clip each season in Vancouver. Lucic has shown a 3 year ongoing decline. It's laughable to consider Lucic a better, or even comparable, asset going forward. Both are trash, but Lucic is a lower tier level of trash who happens to be on a longer contract, is owed more money and will take up a protection slot in the expansion draft.
Even more valuable than Drai @ 8.5M per year?
Bouchard has to do quite a bit to have me value him over Drai.
He's going to at least have to consistently put up 70+ points considering he's feeding Drai and McDavid. I'm hoping for 60+.
And why would Seattle pick him?
Any trade proposal including Brouchard will be a hard no from the Oilers unless it is some block buster deal. People need to stop trying steal him for nothing.
1) Your rationale for the Canucks in #1 and #2 above also applies to the Oilers. Nobody has been coming after McD or Nuge.
2) Bouchard is >>> IMO than a 10th in this draft. Especially given how soon he may be ready and the fact he hits our #1 deficit in our lineup (yes, a RD PMD is still more important to our success and more difficult to acquire than some complementary wingers)
3) I honestly think Lucic is = or > than Eriksson. If you believe #1 (and you clearly do, so do I) at least he brings something... yes, unfortunately its for a year longer, so you could argue that makes them equal... but then the rest of the deal falls apart on principle.
There isn't a "+" that you'd reasonably give up to have us swap Bouchard for #10 given our immediate needs for him. (It's honestly going to be difficult to keep him in the AHL this year, even though we probably should if we were thinking long term)
Lucics abyssmal contract is not "nothing".
Lucics abyssmal contract is not "nothing".
Oilers would never, ever, attach Bouchard to Lucic just to rid themselves of the contract... let alone take on Eriksson's nearly as bad contract. It's pointless.
Rather use Lucic on the 4th line than move Bouchard for a pick and Eriksson who’s a 3rd liner
Do it. When can you take over for Holland and make that official?
Eriksson is a 4th line calibre guy too btw...
I was just trying to give Eriksson the nod in roster position as he played under Tippett in Dallas. Maybe it inspires him. As for moving Lucic I’d rather dump Sekera, Manning, Gagner and Russell as each one is easier to move and won’t cost us even debating attaching 8th ov or Bouchard
It's not close to "nearly as bad". Eriksson was your fanbases inclusion too, not ours. As of yesterday our idiot manager hadn't even reached out to Eriksson.
As for Lucics worst contract in the league, it doesn't have to be Bouchard, but Puuljujarvi(who unlike Eriksson has requested a trade) or Bear aren't going to do it either. A second won't do it. A third and fifth won't do it. Moving up two spots in the first round of the draft won't do it. Is the whole north half of Alberta blind to had badly Chia screwed up on that contract?