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Most surprising is that they start ASAP. It doesn't even sound like an interim year of club or whatever. (In this economy???)
Long island is a hockey hotbed. Makes sense that a long island school will go D1. Off the top of my head players from long island in the past 15 years or so include komisarek, Higgins, McAvoy, fox, milano, scuderi, and gilroy.
Long island is a hockey hotbed. Makes sense that a long island school will go D1. Off the top of my head players from long island in the past 15 years or so include komisarek, Higgins, McAvoy, fox, milano, scuderi, and gilroy.
Long Island has been putting out consistent D1/ NHL Draft level talent consistently since 2014. Of course the top guys will still be going to the top schools, but there are many more D1 quality players coming out of Long Island that LIU cold have a good chance to pick up. Granted I know it will take a while and the program has some hurdles ahead but it's very exciting nevertheless.
Sonny Milano
Jeremy Bracco
Charlie McAvoy
Adam Fox
Tage Thompson
Shane Pinto
Robert Mastrosimone
Marshall Warren
Christian Sarlo
Danny Weight
Tyce Thompson
Matthew Coronato
Jeremy Wilmer
Ryan Ufko
Eddie Romano
Tanner Adams
Ryan Fine
And these are just LI kids, a successful D1 program on LI can pull the quality players from LI, NYC, South-west CT, Hudson Valley and NJ.
You misread what I said. I acknowledged almost all of those top names will continue to go to the top schools. I just used those names to highlight the growth of talent on Long Island over the last several years and that it is the tier of players beneath them that LIU could land. My point was Long Island has been producing top draft talents but also many more players who won’t be nhl or draft prospects but can be decent/ good D1 players.Really? You think so?
Milano went to the OHL - he was never going to college and a player of his caliber either goes to a top program or goes to Major Junior. He'd never go to a start-up program at a fourth-tier college like LIU.
Bracco went to BC, McAvoy went to BU, Fox went to Harvard, and so on - LIU isn't going to be immediately competitive in hockey with those schools and is not now and will not ever be competitive with them academically.
This isn't Penn State. This isn't ASU. This is a local private commuter college without a huge benefactor starting a program that has no rink, no funding, no coach, and no players.
They'll be hunting for players among the scrapheaps with UAH.
The area doesn't "need" Division I hockey. It doesn't have Division I hockey, but it's hard to say that the area needs it, considering that college sports have mid-level drawing power in the NYC area. St. John's hoops doesn't sell out the Garden nightly anymore. College football is absent and largely irrelevant.
Nah man, you're just naturally pessimistic. It's okay, some people are like that such as there are naturally optimistic people in the world today too. Everything has to start from nothing, everything starts with an idea. Your favourite songs that you listen to today were not worth a million dollars five, ten, twenty, fifty, or one hundred years ago depending on what music you like...yet they are now. What I'm implying is everything that is powerful and wealthy on this Earth all started as nothing and the same analogy can be used with LIU.I am skeptical for year one. They must quickly find a full staff, roster of at least +25 players with recruiting season finishing up without have a coach, arena, or conference announced, and there doubts about when the season next year is going to start. It is exciting that they are joining the NCAA D1 ranks, but how they're going about it isn't anywhere near ideal.
Long Island University announced today it was adding a Division I men's hockey program. The school added women's hockey as of last season.
LIU, known as the Sharks and based out of campuses in Brooklyn and Brookville, N.Y., will be the first new program since Arizona State, and 61st overall.
"We are thrilled to be adding men's ice hockey to the sport opportunities for our student-athletes," athletic director William Martinov said in a statement. "NCAA Division I men's hockey is one of the most exciting sports out there, and we are pleased to be able to provide another opportunity for young hockey players nationwide. Coach Rob Morgan and his women's ice hockey team proved this season that there is a real hunger for a chance to play hockey on Long Island, and winning a championship in their first season has been a great experience for our entire Shark family. We look forward to the same success for our men's team."
Do they actually have a suitable rink that isn't close to the rink that ASU currently using?
Nah man, you're just naturally pessimistic. It's okay, some people are like that such as there are naturally optimistic people in the world today too. Everything has to start from nothing, everything starts with an idea. Your favourite songs that you listen to today were not worth a million dollars five, ten, twenty, fifty, or one hundred years ago depending on what music you like...yet they are now. What I'm implying is everything that is powerful and wealthy on this Earth all started as nothing and the same analogy can be used with LIU.
Truthfully, I haven't because this caught me off guard, but I knew what your opinion was even before I came into this thread. However, I actually agree with you one million percent. If they think it is a viable option to go straight to DI using just this offseason, especially with what has happened with Covid then they're fools. If they plan on starting a club team this season and then go into DI next season that's fine. None of this matters eight or so years from now when the programme will be in full swing. Nobody cares about how something starts, they care about is the end product even though there are legitimate issues on how they're planning this thing currently.Get real.
Have you read anything anyone else has said on this thread? Have you looked at the questionnaire sent out by the school? I doubt you have looked at this for more than 2 seconds. They are so many doubts that the consensus opinion is they will have to play a mixed NCAA schedule the first season. It's four months until puck drop and they don't have an arena, head coach, staff, or any team to build off of. Even the women's D1 team didn't have a permanent home, they switched between two rinks. Illinois and Navy are both intelligently delaying the starts to their programs. Because 4 months is not enough time, especially with COVID still rampant in North America.
There numerous rinks in the area with available dates/facilities/etc. Being that LIU can utilize facilities in Brooklyn and Long Island they can play out of Aviator (I am not sure if there is the room with the 2 USPHL junior teams and only 2 dedicated team locker rooms but as a temporary solution maybe) and on the island, they could utilize the twin rinks at Eisenhower Park. There are 2 dedicated team locker rooms there (initially built for the NY Bobcats EHL and LI Gulls 18U). Ballpark estimates put fan capacity at about 1,500 spectators. Now the Islanders are using one team room and the other sits vacant. In addition, I bet you that the Nassau Coliseum would be open to hosting some games as it sits vacant most nights, even with the Islanders returning.Do they actually have a suitable rink that isn't close to the rink that ASU currently using?
Nah man, you're just naturally pessimistic. It's okay, some people are like that such as there are naturally optimistic people in the world today too. Everything has to start from nothing, everything starts with an idea. Your favourite songs that you listen to today were not worth a million dollars five, ten, twenty, fifty, or one hundred years ago depending on what music you like...yet they are now. What I'm implying is everything that is powerful and wealthy on this Earth all started as nothing and the same analogy can be used with LIU.
Has that really been or is it now an NCAA regulation? On the women's hockey side, Lindenwood U in the St. Louis area has never had a campus rink. UA-Huntsville men play at Von Braun Center downtown. Colorado College has played off-campus for a long time (though soon to move back to campus into a new arena), as did University of Nebraska-Omaha for 10 years. University of Alaska-Anchorage played in Sullivan Arena in town for many years before moving to campus last fall. So either it's a regulation with caveats, or it's not a reg at all.... I am curious to see if they are still subject to the regulations about having a rink on campus ...
There numerous rinks in the area with available dates/facilities/etc. Being that LIU can utilize facilities in Brooklyn and Long Island they can play out of Aviator (I am not sure if there is the room with the 2 USPHL junior teams and only 2 dedicated team locker rooms but as a temporary solution maybe) and on the island, they could utilize the twin rinks at Eisenhower Park. There are 2 dedicated team locker rooms there (initially built for the NY Bobcats EHL and LI Gulls 18U). Ballpark estimates put fan capacity at about 1,500 spectators. Now the Islanders are using one team room and the other sits vacant. In addition, I bet you that the Nassau Coliseum would be open to hosting some games as it sits vacant most nights, even with the Islanders returning.
I am curious to see if they are still subject to the regulations about having a rink on campus as they are going to have athletes split between the 2 campuses and neither campus having a rink (or really the land to build a rink or even the need for another rink in the area).
The women’s team played its home games at Iceworks in Syosset and at Northwell Health Ice Center in East Meadow plus one game at the Nassau Coliseum. The AD said the school is in negotiations with three venues to play home games, but didn't specify the three. I would assume it would be the three mentioned above. I can't imagine that they would allow themselves as a serious D1 team to split between two rinks full time like the women's team did.
Nothing LIU has done since announcing their men's hockey program has indicated that they are a serious Division I team.
Nothing LIU has done since announcing their men's hockey program has indicated that they are a serious Division I team.
They clearly think they can do a lot in 4 months time. I haven’t seen much that would indicate they aren’t a serious Division 1 program either.