Line Combos: Lineup if Playoffs Start in August

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I'm not sure why it's saying 503 Service Unvailable... it's an article on Sportsnet, from Feb.

Head coach Sheldon Keefe announced Friday the 25-year-old winger requires surgery on his right knee and will be out of the lineup at least eight weeks. That was announced Feb 14th. Eight weeks was April 10th.


I'm not saying he'll be back in the lineup, or not, but we are past 10 weeks now, and no chance of play/practice for another 9-10 weeks... so an injury that was said eight weeks minimum, you'd think would be good to go at 20 weeks.... plus, it would be good to show he isn't affected by the injury, if he can play well... in case we need to trade him.


Johnsson has a torn ACL, he is out 6 months minimum. The 8 weeks as first reported is incorrect.
 

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Why on earth would next season be starting up in October if this season is resumed in the summer.

All reports have indicated that the NHL would obviously push back the start of next season and perhaps offer a condensed schedule.

It's idiotic and insulting to fans if upon resumption the team just lays down and throws away this season to fully concentrate on getting ready for next season just because a handful of fans have the peculiar view that winning this season in an altered format is devalued.
I see that about shortening next season as well and if those reports are accurate I don’t understand the economics. Why give up revenue in two seasons, unless maybe, they were told no fans will be in the rinks until at least Christmas.
 

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Denis Malgin will not be playing for the Leafs if the lineup is fully healthy, not even sure what you're on about.

He has 4 shots on goal as a Maple Leaf. I belive that those stats might me generous.

Is he a defensive specialist? I don't think so.
Does he check? I don't think so.
Does he fight? I don't think so.
Does he hit to hurt? I don't think so.
Does he McDangle? I don't think so.
Does he make great plays? I don't think so.
Does he Agitate? I don't think so.
Does he score? I don't think so.
Does warm the bench properly for other players? I don't think so.
Does he...
 
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I see that about shortening next season as well and if those reports are accurate I don’t understand the economics. Why give up revenue in two seasons, unless maybe, they were told no fans will be in the rinks until at least Christmas.
I'm obviously no expert but I don't think we can count on fans being able to return to rinks until there is a vaccine.

It's a huge mess in the US not surprising and its likely not going to be reduced enough for a sustained period in many states to allow fans back. Many experts think there is a good chance the virus will come back strong again in the fall/winter too.

I think we just have to take what we can get which is empty arenas for atleast a year.
 

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The Leafs aren't going to be playing Dermott on the right side in the playoffs nonetheless. If Ceci could play, he'd play. If Ceci can't play, it would be either Marincin or Liljegren on the 3rd pairing right side before Dermott got used on the right side. Otherwise the OP lineup seems about right.

Although the league reserves the power to change the rules however they wish, Robertson would be eligible to play in the playoffs as he is under contract and presumably the OHL is over. Sam Bennett did this very thing in 2014-15. I don't think the team would dress Robertson without several injuries.
 

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I don't think this is going to happen even with empty stadiums. There would be minimal risk to the young healthy professional athletes. This shutdown is about protecting the old and health compromised.
 

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People are going to be upset with you for putting Clifford as the 13th forward:laugh: It makes sense though. Who is he replacing? None of the wingers, and Keefe likes Gauthier. I'm not the biggest fan of Gauthier, but a non event player isn't a bad thing.
Clifford will play on 4th line. He keeps everyone on other team honest. He plays a responsible defensive game. He chips in here and there in playoffs with goals and hits. He knows what it takes to win a Cup. and so long as he has policed our lineup no one has messed with Matty. No one else we got can do it.
 

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The Leafs aren't going to be playing Dermott on the right side in the playoffs nonetheless. If Ceci could play, he'd play. If Ceci can't play, it would be either Marincin or Liljegren on the 3rd pairing right side before Dermott got used on the right side. Otherwise the OP lineup seems about right.

Although the league reserves the power to change the rules however they wish, Robertson would be eligible to play in the playoffs as he is under contract and presumably the OHL is over. Sam Bennett did this very thing in 2014-15. I don't think the team would dress Robertson without several injuries.
Too much Babs here. There was a reason we let that sieve go.
 

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Clifford will play on 4th line. He keeps everyone on other team honest. He plays a responsible defensive game. He chips in here and there in playoffs with goals and hits. He knows what it takes to win a Cup. and so long as he has policed our lineup no one has messed with Matty. No one else we got can do it.
Of course Clifford will dress, pretty silly to think otherwise.
 

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I'm obviously no expert but I don't think we can count on fans being able to return to rinks until there is a vaccine.

It's a huge mess in the US not surprising and its likely not going to be reduced enough for a sustained period in many states to allow fans back. Many experts think there is a good chance the virus will come back strong again in the fall/winter too.

I think we just have to take what we can get which is empty arenas for atleast a year.
I can’t see the NHL surviving if that’s the case. I still think we’ll be in arenas in the new year.
 

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Johnsson has a torn ACL, he is out 6 months minimum. The 8 weeks as first reported is incorrect.
Andreas Johnsson - Toronto Maple Leafs - NHL

Was originally stated that he would miss 8 weeks, but was changed to 6 months. 6 months would put his return the middle of August. A lot of players have come back soon than the 6 month timeline for this injury though. Could be good to go as early as June, but could still be out until October at the same time.
 

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I can’t see the NHL surviving if that’s the case. I still think we’ll be in arenas in the new year.
Around a third of league revenue is from gates but expenses also will also come down somewhat.

The league won't fold they'll find solutions. Wouldn't mind seeing some of the deadbeat sunbelt teams collapse frankly but I'm sure Bettman will just have us deep pocket teams keep them afloat.
 
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Around a third of league revenue is from gates but expenses also will also come down somewhat.

The league won't fold they'll find solutions. Wouldn't mind seeing some of the deadbeat sunbelt teams collapse frankly but I'm sure Bettman will just have us deep pocket teams keep them afloat.
It is much higher than that Leafs approx 100M gate, 30M media and 110M on sponsors/food/merch etc on 240M overall. What you are omitting is most of da 110M goes away without fans in da stands. Us sponsors don't advertise unless there are fans in stands. People don't buy merch or hotdogs. Hockey is like it or not a gate driven league.
 

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Around a third of league revenue is from gates but expenses also will also come down somewhat.

The league won't fold they'll find solutions. Wouldn't mind seeing some of the deadbeat sunbelt teams collapse frankly but I'm sure Bettman will just have us deep pocket teams keep them afloat.
I was thinking the Coyotes, Panthers for sure would be in danger, perhaps Carolina. I’d be ok if teams like Winnipeg , Oilers or maybe Ottawa folded, if anyone is.
 

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Love to find a way to get our top 4 d-men (Rielly Muzzin Barrie Dermott) in the top 4. Means somebody switching to their off side though.
 

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Love to find a way to get our top 4 d-men (Rielly Muzzin Barrie Dermott) in the top 4. Means somebody switching to their off side though.
no thanks to barrie in the top-4. i'd rather see holl there. him and muzzin were great together.
 

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It’s certainly devalued to some extent if they completely change the format. No travel, no home games, no road games, no fans has to change the difficulty and effort it takes to win.

I know they have to do something to get paid the TV money, but I don’t know if this will draw many eyes, especially if baseball opens around the same time.
Then you never played hockey as a kid and had the passion grow in side of you. I'm going to assume you are a fair weather fan. With that additude that's how it comes off. If anything leafs might have an advantage being younger.
 

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Then you never played hockey as a kid and had the passion grow in side of you. I'm going to assume you are a fair weather fan. With that additude that's how it comes off. If anything leafs might have an advantage being younger.
Played my entire life and still play on occasion. That’s irrelevant though.
Removing the fans changes the dynamic. There’s a reason teams battle for home ice advantage.
 

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I was thinking the Coyotes, Panthers for sure would be in danger, perhaps Carolina. I’d be ok if teams like Winnipeg , Oilers or maybe Ottawa folded, if anyone is.
Florida, Arizona, Columbus, Nashville, Jets, Isles, Ducks, Sabres, Sens, Canes and Tampa all gone ... None of them make money today they just survive to fight another day ... the only teams which could survive long term are the original 6 teams .. the rest of teams are very iffy
 

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Haven't liked Holl's game since the contract extension. Shouldn't be any higher than the 3rd pairing.

Funny, I agree. Same with Engvall.

As for playoff lines I could see Agostino up on the 4th line with Spezza in the middle.
 
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Played my entire life and still play on occasion. That’s irrelevant though.
Removing the fans changes the dynamic. There’s a reason teams battle for home ice advantage.
Leafs have not had real fans littering there lower bowl for years. I've been saying for along time now if anything our fans need to cheer louder. I think the leafs will be fine with no fans.
 

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