Line Combos: Line Shake Ups

Hocks95*

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Gunnar soft......what a joke. There is nothing soft about Gunnar.....first to every puck he could get to, Battled all game long. Worked his tail off on one good leg. He was the best Defensive D man we had and would still be if he was here today.

I understand the trade....but do not confuse strength for softness..... Kessel he is the definition of softness. We needed more right shot D man as well as a banger who could play, and that is what we got....a bottom Pairing D man who is strong.

honestly phaneuf was probably better off playing on the wrong side but with gunnar rather than with whoever we pair him with today. imo phaneuf should have gotten traded before gunnarson if we were going to make the trade but obviously except for maybe edmonton I don't know many teams that will take him
 

Bigleaf

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With this roster, shaking up the lines is akin to rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. This ship is going down regardless with this group of players.
 

nsleaf

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In an ideal world, but Clarkson has a bigger cap hit, and he should be used on the 2nd line to increase his production.

It increases the likelihood that he a) earns the contract and b) increases his trade value so we can c) get rid of him easier.

Komarov, in addition, keeps his value lower by being kept on the 3rd and 4th lines.

We need to keep him under a $4M cap hit when he re-signs with us, and having him play on the 3rd/4th lines will increase the chances of his camp agreeing to a low-ball offer. Though admittedly it increases the risk of him not wanting to re-sign...

Huh? Play the bad players because they get paid more and play good players less so they don't get a raise??
 

Havoc

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I really want to see this happen:

JVR - Kadri- Lupul: The former 2nd line gets there big body in JVR
Komarov - Bozak - Kessel: Komarov would help this line cycle better.
Winnik = Santorelli - Clarkson: Should still be a good cycling line without Komarov
Panik = Holland - Bodie: Bodie should get another look

The D is a disaster but to give it a go:
Phaneuf - Franson
Gardiner - Robidas
Reilly - Polak

Bernier
Reimer

I want to know if anyone else is interested in seeing that forward line up

Who is Komarov going to cycle with, himself? haha. Takes more than one player to cycle. 2/3 of the line should be competent in cycling with one weak cycler at most. As soon as he dumps the puck off, the other two will lose it along the boards unless they can get a pass into the slot. Komarov doesn't have the hands to own the boards by himself and then make a pass off to the open man in a scoring area. Bozak and Kessel on one line will never have an above average cycle.
 

LeafsMonster

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Can't get much worse. If this goes horribly wrong, change it up again. Keep going until a combination works. At this point we have no where to go but up
 

officialmark*

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Good job Randy, keep playing Frattin on your 4th line because that's working very well. Try him with Kadri because Frattin has been one of the few forwards that has played 100% every time he has been in the lineup. Kadri has been absolute garbage so far so whats the harm in trying Frattin there and if they both get going you kill 2 birds with 1 stone.

Komarov - Kadri - Frattin
 

Hocks95*

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Good job Randy, keep playing Frattin on your 4th line because that's working very well. Try him with Kadri because Frattin has been one of the few forwards that has played 100% every time he has been in the lineup. Kadri has been absolute garbage so far so whats the harm in trying Frattin there and if they both get going you kill 2 birds with 1 stone.

Komarov - Kadri - Frattin


frattin is a bust and we are all trying to live something that was existant two years ago. Before the season started Carlyle and Frattin himself had dreams about reigniting the fire with Kadri but it's pretty impractical. He tried reliving something that made him a very decent winger for 10 games and it didn't work too well. To give you some perspective Frattin is only 2 months younger than Kessel. I think it's fair to label him as a bust at this point.
 

HellasLEAF

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Clarkson too high up. Both Komo and Winnick would do a better job in that spot.

But I like the shake up here. Bozy hasn't been anything special, he should absolutely be shown that there is no entitlement to that spot in the lineup.
 

PhiladelphiaKessel

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I really want to see this happen:

JVR - Kadri- Lupul: The former 2nd line gets there big body in JVR
Komarov - Bozak - Kessel: Komarov would help this line cycle better.
Winnik = Santorelli - Clarkson: Should still be a good cycling line without Komarov
Panik = Holland - Bodie: Bodie should get another look

The D is a disaster but to give it a go:
Phaneuf - Franson
Gardiner - Robidas
Reilly - Polak

Bernier
Reimer

I want to know if anyone else is interested in seeing that forward line up

Love that lineup btw. The D is a mess but there's not much that can be done. You can shuffle them around all you want , it won't matter
 

dballislife2

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put ur 3 best offensive players together to see if they can work magic on O as ur number 1 line, they might give some up but this line can score

then ur 2nd and 3rd line has a lot of D, grit, toughness, and some goal scoring ability...not bad
 

Simcoe23

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frattin is a bust and we are all trying to live something that was existant two years ago. Before the season started Carlyle and Frattin himself had dreams about reigniting the fire with Kadri but it's pretty impractical. He tried reliving something that made him a very decent winger for 10 games and it didn't work too well. To give you some perspective Frattin is only 2 months younger than Kessel. I think it's fair to label him as a bust at this point.

This. Looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck...its a duck. Give Frattin's ice time to someone else, like Leivo or Broll for instance, and let them cut their teeth with the big club.

So...if almost everyone can come ot this conclusion with Frattin so easily, why the frig is it so hard to come to the same conclusion on Franson?
 

KGL

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I'd like to see them do something like this:

JVR-Kadri-Kessel
Lupul-Bozak-Santorelli
Winnik-Komarov-Clarkson
Panik-Holland-Ashton

Gives them a shutdown line with Winnik/Komarov/Clarkson. Santorelli has looked really good and is good at cycling the puck, would look good with Bozak and Lupul. Top line is pure scoring.
 

exporta

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Franson And Phaneuf would be a disaster. LOL

But i agree that Bodie should get a look again. Guy was one of few that played hard every game down the stretch and deserves another look for sure.

Someones probably already mentioned it, but they have been together already and are a disaster.
 

Hocks95*

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This. Looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck...its a duck. Give Frattin's ice time to someone else, like Leivo or Broll for instance, and let them cut their teeth with the big club.

So...if almost everyone can come ot this conclusion with Frattin so easily, why the frig is it so hard to come to the same conclusion on Franson?

because he has a couple respectable assets.

He's a powerplay specialist and most teams in the NHL would have him out on the powerplay. A huge wise shot from the point is always something teams will like and special teams are important.
 

KGL

Auston 3:16
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Someones probably already mentioned it, but they have been together already and are a disaster.

They actually haven't been a disaster. Both of their possession stats have greatly improved from last season. They've actually been pretty good together. Read an article by Pension Plan Puppets talking about how Phaneuf/Franson fail the eye test but their advanced stats are good. So true.
 

WestCoastLeafs

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Kadri's line has been doing a great job of playing the cycle/possession game, and I would prefer a tweak to a sledgehammer. I'd like to see Santa replace Winnik - think he could still provide what Winnik does, but with better offense. This would require that Winnik or Komarov become a full time centre though.

I've wanted to see Bozak and Clarkson together for a while, so that's one thing I do like about the new line combos. Hopefully he could focus on controlling the puck instead of counterattacking all the time.
 

showtime8

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Jun 30, 2010
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I just want a team to play a full 60 minutes.

I've seen a good 40 minutes out of them against both Rangers and Avalanche.

I would honestly be happy with a 3-2 OT loss if it meant them play a full 65 minutes.

I just want to see them start skating and finish their checks.
 

Hocks95*

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NEWS: the Kadri Kessel Luups line isn't the first line. I just read that on NHL.com and I'm not sure if it's true but idk.

The first line is JVR - Bozak - Clarkson
Second line is Lupul - Kadri - Kessel
Third line is some combination of Winnik Komarov and Santorelli
Fourth line is Panik - Holland - Ashton/Frattin.

What a joke. Clarkson on the first line. Hah. Really don't want to see him lining up against other teams top lines wow.
 

JackJ

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I really want to see this happen:

JVR - Kadri- Lupul: The former 2nd line gets there big body in JVR
Komarov - Bozak - Kessel: Komarov would help this line cycle better.
Winnik = Santorelli - Clarkson: Should still be a good cycling line without Komarov
Panik = Holland - Bodie: Bodie should get another look

A lot better than that crap RC assembled.
 

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