Line combinations that make you want to claw your eyes out

[kk87]

I think Mike Babcock is one of the best coaches in the league pretty easily, but as a Leafs fan, the amount of angst and annoyance that our entire fanbase seemingly feels towards his usual line combinations is pretty appalling.

Are there any other fanbases that are as consistently frustrated by certain line combinations or player combinations that their respective coaches constantly use? Or conversely, are there any combos that you'd like to see, that your coach never deploys?

For most of the season we've been running:

Hyman-Matthews-Nylander
Marleau-Kadri-Komarov
JVR-Bozak-Marner
Martin-Moore-Brown
Leivo

Many Leafs fans' frustration includes but is not limited to; wanting Hyman, Bozak, and Komarov further down the lineup; wanting Brown/Marleau moved up the lineup; wanting Martin and/or Moore scratched from time to time and replaced by Leivo; wanting Matthews with Marner and Nylander at centre (in some cases); the list goes on. Does your fanbase go through similar trials and tribulations? Curious to hear some insight from around the league.

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[Redder Winger]

Anything with Glendening or Abdelkader or Helm with skilled players.
Blashill learned this BS from the master himself.

 

[Ivan13]

Every single fanbase thinks they know better than the coach. Amusing, really.

 

[kk87]

Every single fanbase thinks they know better than the coach. Amusing, really.

Yeah, it can definitely get to the point of being completely delusional. But I'd say that getting frustrated by a coach's unwillingness to try new things that sit right in front of them is pretty understandable in some cases

 

[Burke the Legend]

If you move Nylander to centre does that mean there is a trade? What happens to Kadri & Bozak?

 

[DJJones]

Versteeg - Bennett - Brouwer

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Gaudreau - Monahan - Chiasson

That was tough to watch.

 

[1specter]

If you move Nylander to centre does that mean there is a trade? What happens to Kadri & Bozak?

Bozak either gets moved down to 4C or is traded.

 

[Machinehead]

Miller-Hayes-Anyone

JT Miller and Kevin Hayes are fire and napalm. It's an absolute tragedy when they're together.

 

[Machinehead]

Every single fanbase thinks they know better than the coach. Amusing, really.

Because even the best coaches do stupid shit.

It's like expecting a goalie to have a 1.000 save percentage - they f*** up sometimes.

 

[Nick Hansen]

Didn't Abdelkader get to play with Datsyuk for basically all of 14/15 upon which he got his seven-year deal?

 

[Pens x]

Kuhnhackl - McKegg - Reaves

This is the Pens' 4th line and it is absolutely terrible. Kuhn and McKegg are barely NHL players at this stage.

 

[Man Bear Pig]

Every single fanbase thinks they know better than the coach. Amusing, really.

I'm not sure about that. I don't remember being this frustrated with Carlyle or Wilson as far as the lines go. I mean, they'd overplay guys like Mike Kostka but that was more out of desperation. Babcock has a ton of talent at his disposal and he throws guys like Komarov on the PP and Hyman with Matthews, as well as Hyman being on the ice when Babs pulls the goalie in the last few minutes.

 

[TheMule93]

It annoys me that Blashill will not ever play nyquist without Zetterberg. They aren't producing shit, change it up please.

 

[Jets012]

Henrique playing with Hall sometimes is amusing.

Greene-Santini currently as our top pairing is just down right miserable to watch.

 

[Brobust]

I get the reasoning from both sides when it comes to Hyman and Komarov.

What I don't get is Matt Martin having his spot completely secure.

I also really hate seeing Roman Polak in the lineup. If they want PKers, call up Marincin.

 

[Ryan Michaels]

Every single fanbase thinks they know better than the coach. Amusing, really.

I think Quentin Tarantino is a fine film maker but that Death Proof was a bad movie I am not a better director than Tarantino, see how that works?

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

I think Quentin Tarantino is a fine film maker but that Death Proof was a bad movie I am not a better director than Tarantino, see how that works?

In this analogy, aren't you presuming that you know better than the coach? "Death Proof is a bad movie" = "Playing Hymen with Matthews is a bad idea".

And second guessing line combos isn't nearly as bad as football fans with playcalling. 1-2 "bad" playcalls (ie a 40% success chance play failed to convert at a noticeable time) = OC sucks, wtf is he doing????

 

[Ivan13]

I think Quentin Tarantino is a fine film maker but that Death Proof was a bad movie I am not a better director than Tarantino, see how that works?

No I don't as this is one of the worst parallels I ever saw.

 

[Ryan Michaels]

That comparison is probably too kind, Babcock and Hyman is basically...imagine you go to hang out with Steven Spielberg and he screens Kingdom of the Crystal Skull for you while Raiders is prominately on his dvd shelf, and you beg to watch something different but Spielberg just calls you too stupid to understand while the fridge is nuked.

 

[Beville]

Most of the Sens top 2 lines are some kind of terrible idea every time...

 

[Ryan Michaels]

In this analogy, aren't you presuming that you know better than the coach? "Death Proof is a bad movie" = "Playing Hymen with Matthews is a bad idea".

And second guessing line combos isn't nearly as bad as football fans with playcalling. 1-2 "bad" playcalls (ie a 40% success chance play failed to convert at a noticeable time) = OC sucks, wtf is he doing????

In Babcock's case its not really about knowing better its just knowing Hyman is not very talented at ice hockey and never seeing anyone else there.

 

[Ryan Michaels]

No I don't as this is one of the worst parallels I ever saw.

Why are you on a discussion board? Your first post is refusing a discussion and your second is an insult.

 

[yangmang]

leafs and oilers lines

 

[Lapa]

Winnik-Koivu-Granlund

Oh my god why