Leon Draisaitl vs Sebastian Aho

[Navx94]

Who would you rather build your franchise around?

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[Dion TheFluff]

unless I already have McDavid on my team, it's Aho.

 

[joe dirte]

unless I already have McDavid on my team, it's Aho.

Well that wouldnt be "building your team around him" would it?

 

[Dion TheFluff]

Well that wouldnt be "buding your team around him" would it?

I guess not. I voted Aho

 

[Zamuz]

I build it around a center than a winger

 

[joe dirte]

Who would you rather build your franchise around?

I predict this poll gets shut down for being too lopsided.

 

[Navx94]

I predict this poll gets shut down for being too lopsided.

People are too caught up in the winger vs centre argument. Draisaitl is the better player and in a game 7 I’d take him 10/10 times before Aho.

 

[AB13]

Draisaitl. A much better and more complete player.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

I'm a Canes fan, a huge Aho fan, and one that thinks there isn't that much difference between Aho and Drai, but I say Draisaitl here without hesitation.

In the last 10 years, only Crosby (09/10), Malkin (11/12), Ovechkin (5 times), Stamkos(9/10 and 11/12) and Perry (10/11) have scored 50 goals. That's some pretty elite company.

In that same 10 years, 100 points has only been eclipsed 18 times. Kucherov, McDavid,H. Sedin, Kane, Ovi, Malkin, Crosby, D. Sedin, Giroux, Backstrom, Marchand. Again, some elite company.

 

[Dion TheFluff]

I'm a Canes fan, a huge Aho fan, and one that thinks there isn't that much difference between Aho and Drai, but I say Draisaitl here without hesitation.

In the last 10 years, only Crosby (09/10), Malkin (11/12), Ovechkin (5 times), Stamkos(9/10 and 11/12) and Perry (10/11) have scored 50 goals. That's some pretty elite company.

In that same 10 years, 100 points has only been eclipsed 18 times. Kucherov, McDavid,H. Sedin, Kane, Ovi, Malkin, Crosby, D. Sedin, Giroux, Backstrom, Marchand. Again, some elite company.

I think some context needs to be applied here though. He was riding a S% and OIS% high that will not be sustainable what so ever where as Aho's number seem rather repeatable.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

I think some context needs to be applied here though. He was riding a S% and OIS% high that will not be sustainable what so ever where as Aho's number seem rather repeatable.

True, but he has a 77, 70 and 105 point season. Even if his S% drops off 15% (1% less than his career avg), he's still scoring 35 goals. If his OIS% drops, he's still likely an 85-90 point player.

 

[Love]

Draisaitl. Aho appears to be quite overrated. Not sure where this idea that he’s some sort of two-way dynamo came from because he isn’t.

 

[ijuka]

Draisaitl. Aho appears to be quite overrated. Not sure where this idea that he’s some sort of two-way dynamo came from because he isn’t.

He was one last season, and you saying that he wasn't doesn't change that fact.

 

[emptyNedder]

Another Canes fan—however I think it is a toss up. While they were drafted one year apart, Draisaitl is almost 2 years older. Having just turned 22, I think Aho will increase production a little more. I see them both as 90-point two-way stars.

 

[joe dirte]

People are too caught up in the winger vs centre argument. Draisaitl is the better player and in a game 7 I’d take him 10/10 times before Aho.

People are caught up taking the better player.

Dont pout. Youre just realizing your opinion is homer. Draisaitl doesnt come remotely close to being a top centre in 10 teams.

 

[Navx94]

People are caught up taking the better player.

Dont pout. Youre just realizing your opinion is homer. Draisaitl doesnt come remotely close to being a top centre in 10 teams.

I’ll take my 50G 55A centre and cry myself to sleep tonight. This isn’t as lopsided as you’re making it out to be. Wait till west coast people wake up you know guys that actually watch Draisaitl carve teams up. Also I’m not saying Aho is bad he would easily be our third best player by far but he’s not as good as Draisaitl right now.

 

[joe dirte]

I’ll take my 50G 55A centre and cry myself to sleep tonight. This isn’t as lopsided as you’re making it out to be. Wait till west coast people wake up you know guys that actually watch Draisaitl carve teams up. Also I’m not saying Aho is bad he would easily be our third best player by far but he’s not as good as Draisaitl.

And the rest of the teams will enjoy their playoff teams!!!

 

[Navx94]

And the rest of the teams will enjoy their playoff teams!!!

Pretty sad how Draisaitl outscored Aho by a lot while only having one other legitimate threat other teams had to worry about. Do you mind telling us who you’re a fan of? Anyone can throw shade it’s not difficult.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Pretty sad how Draisaitl outscored Aho by a lot while only having one other legitimate threat other teams had to worry about. Do you mind telling us who you’re a fan of? Anyone can throw shade it’s not difficult.

That cuts both ways. The Canes pretty much had no other legitimate threats for other teams to worry about. Going into the season, the biggest threat on Carolina after Aho, was Teravainen, who is nowhere near McDavid's level and had a career high 64 points while riding shotgun on Aho's line. Even this year, only 3 forwards had more than 40 points for Carolina...Aho, Teravainen and 37 year old Justin Williams.

 

[Navx94]

That cuts both ways. The Canes pretty much had no other legitimate threats for other teams to worry about. Going into the season, the biggest threat on Carolina after Aho, was Teravainen, who is nowhere near McDavid's level and had a career high 64 points while riding shotgun on Aho's line. Even this year, only 3 forwards had more than 40 points for Carolina...Aho, Teravainen and 37 year old Justin Williams.

I’m just poking fun at that poster. I love Aho as a player I just find it laughable that he thinks this poll isn’t even close when MOST fans would agree right now Draisaitl is the better player. In 5 years maybe Aho will be the better player but who knows.

 

[Navx94]

I predict this poll gets shut down for being too lopsided.

Where you at doe?

 

[snipes]

That cuts both ways. The Canes pretty much had no other legitimate threats for other teams to worry about. Going into the season, the biggest threat on Carolina after Aho, was Teravainen, who is nowhere near McDavid's level and had a career high 64 points while riding shotgun on Aho's line. Even this year, only 3 forwards had more than 40 points for Carolina...Aho, Teravainen and 37 year old Justin Williams.

Not to mention you guys have way better puck moving D than the Oilers.

Our D’s “breakout” is to bank it off the boards or glass in our own zone and hope for the best. When all else fails fall on your stomach and do a starfish ala Kris Russell.

 

[NotLeddy]

That cuts both ways. The Canes pretty much had no other legitimate threats for other teams to worry about. Going into the season, the biggest threat on Carolina after Aho, was Teravainen, who is nowhere near McDavid's level and had a career high 64 points while riding shotgun on Aho's line. Even this year, only 3 forwards had more than 40 points for Carolina...Aho, Teravainen and 37 year old Justin Williams.

Their biggest threat was their blue line (especially Pesce and Hamilton) that dictated possession, drove the majority of play for either team, shot at almost every opportunity, constantly challenged opposition and suffocated the neutral zone, not really Aho, Teuvo, NN, Williams etc. They were more complimentary and weren't the main play drivers or the primary reason Carolina was such a great team last season. Similar to the Sharks in that sense (Karlsson, Burns). Without such a great transitional defense behind them, I'm not sure their forwards would've fared better if they were on Edmonton for example, who's defense's breakout and transition play is nowhere near as good as Carolina's.

Even still, Aho struggled to produce at 5v5 (1.46 p1/60), and defensively, despite not handling the majority of top center matchups (in his first full season at center, which isn't unusual, especially given Aho's potential and young age, so next year he should be better) despite having a PDO above 100. I think Aho can eventually become better than Draisaitl, but he is not right now.

 

[Conspiracy Theorist]

I trust Aho more to carry a line.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

I think Aho can eventually become better than Draisaitl, but he is not right now.

No disagreement, which is why I said a few posts ago that I’d take Draisaitl and voted that way