Leon Draisaitl, back to back 1.5ppg seasons, joins elite club!

[Steven Toast]

Incredible accomplishment for Draisaitl. Easily one of the most underrated players in the game today.

 

[Rabid Ranger]

The guy is an absolute production machine- he’s under appreciated for a combination of reasons:he’s not North American, he doesn’t play in a major market, has McDavid soaking up the spotlight, and his play style isn’t as thrilling as McDavid, Mackinnon etc but it’s so effective and efficient.

No other play broke 70 points and he’s sitting with 84. If it wasn’t for McDavid, he would have won back the Art Ross with a sizable lead in a shortened season.

How many people expected Draisaitl to repeat his “career year” from last year? Well he just did.

...if it wasn't for McDavid.

 

[syz]

He was better than McDavid last year. Granted that was McDavid on one leg, but still.

 

[Rabid Ranger]

He was better than McDavid last year. Granted that was McDavid on one leg, but still.

Right, and McDavid on two legs demonstrated the gap between he and the rest of the league. Draisaitl is a fine player though. Certainly one of the top five or six forwards in the league.

 

[authentic]

It's actually minimum 50 points: NHL Records

So Crosby's 12/13 season would qualify.

FUN FACT: Crosby has the best assist season outside of Wayne and Mario in NHL history save for Oates serving up a peak Brett Hull in 90/91.

Which season would that be? He's never had more assists than 3rd place in points.

 

[MadLuke]

Which season would that be? He's never had more assists than 3rd place in points.

is looking at that list I think:
NHL Records

That was a 22 games "season", maybe it was making a point to not put too much weight into nhl record page.

 

[McFlash97]

2nd best forward in the game by a country mile

His numbers this year look insane.

 

[Wallet Inspector]

Best contract in NHL who thought that when signed can't say I did.

I didn't think it was"the best" but even at the time I thought it was good.

He was a center that put up 70+ points. That's very easily worth 8.5 mil

 

[RavenGuard]

If anything Jari Kurri on that list is the cautionary tale of what could happen to Draisaitl. Kurri made #50 on THN's all-time list in 1998 and that's right about where he usually ends up on those lists. Crosby needed about one 100 point season to jump Kurri in the public imagination. Kurri's reputation will forever suffer from having been Gretzky's sidekick, and I'm afraid Draisaitl will have to move teams (or have McDavid move teams) to avoid that fate.

If you knew anything about Drai you'd know that he doesn't care about that at all. In any way. Go check the highlights from the game where he got his 50th point and McD got his 100th point. Check out his reaction

Joy for McDs milestone. Ho him and meh for his milestone.

 

[RavenGuard]

One would think that, if you're going to take a thinly-veiled shot at the guy (let's not pretend that's not what this is), you may want to get your facts straight. This isn't a full season and Crosby had over 1.5PPG three years straight.

A full season is whatever the schedule says it is. Not playing a full season due to injury, based on the accepted number of games for the full season is something else entirely

 

[RavenGuard]

I'm really not sure what Drai has to do to get the respect of the HF posters!

Not play for the Oilers is pretty much the only criteria

 

[RavenGuard]

Right, and McDavid on two legs demonstrated the gap between he and the rest of the league. Draisaitl is a fine player though. Certainly one of the top five or six forwards in the league.

Top 5 or six?

What a weird way to spell 2nd best forward.

Odd spelling.

 

[snipes]

I wouldn't consider 56 games full season either

Except it is because that’s the maximum number of games on the schedule.

Anyways, congrats to Drai. He’s an elite hockey player and definitely deserves more recognition than he gets. Not too much unlike Malkin during the Pens heyday.

 

[82Ninety42011]

I didn't think it was"the best" but even at the time I thought it was good.

He was a center that put up 70+ points. That's very easily worth 8.5 mil

I'm not sure was easily worth 8 plus at the time of signing but hell yes he's been worth every penny and then some dollars since !! It was a gamble for a player that wasn't even PPG at the time but he did just have a coming-out playoff right before signing. A gamble that the Oilers won though quite easily.

 

[McFlash97]

The real question with Leon.. is where he ends up in the all time greatest forwards not born in North America by the time he hits retirement.

Insane talent

 

[Czechboy]

The real question with Leon.. is where he ends up in the all time greatest forwards not born in North America by the time he hits retirement.

Insane talent

Greatest German ever... Although I'm very high on Seider.

I'd say damn near jagr, Bure, sundin and fedorov. Forgot a Finn... Kurri

 

[5 14 6 1]

Easily the best German ever.. Unbelievable player, 50 goal scorer, elite shot, elite passer, excellent along the boards, beast on faceoffs, takes every important draw for the team, and led the NHL in +/-. He's Kopitar/Getzlaf with better goal scoring ability.

 

[Calderon]

Greatest German ever... Although I'm very high on Seider.

I'd say damn near jagr, Bure, sundin and fedorov. Forgot a Finn... Kurri

One is clearly unlike the others: Jagr is far higher than the rest mentioned on any alltime list. Having said that, Draisaitl's 2019-20 season is already more successful than what Bure, Kurri or Sundin ever produced. Then of course you add players like Ovechkin, Selänne, Fedorov and Forsberg into the mix.

 

[The Worst One]

I'm really not sure what Drai has to do to get the respect of the HF posters!

Acquire the US or Canadian citizenship.

 

[Rabid Ranger]

Acquire the US or Canadian citizenship.

I don't think that it. I think a lot of posters think of him as a sidekick to McDavid.

 

[Dieseloil]

I don't think that it. I think a lot of posters think of him as a sidekick to McDavid.

HF posters, can’t downgrade McDavid anymore, gotta go after Drai.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

He's right up there with Jari Kurri.

 

[SwedishFire]

With his final assist of the season, Draisaitl joins this elite club.

The only other players who habe accomplished this in the last 40 years are Gretzky, Lemieux, Jagr, Kurri, Yzerman, Coffey, Lindros an McDavid. So only the absolute elite of peak scorers could do it.

So, no Crosby, no Messier, no Forsberg, no Malkin, no Thornton, no Ovechkin, no Sakic, no Selanne, no Kucherov and so on.

Not bad for a guy who was declared a bum by the vast majority of this board a few years back.

Didnt know that Lindros and Coffey is kn this club.
How crazy isnt it that Coffey are one of those, as a defenceman!

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

With his final assist of the season, Draisaitl joins this elite club.

The only other players who habe accomplished this in the last 40 years are Gretzky, Lemieux, Jagr, Kurri, Yzerman, Coffey, Lindros an McDavid. So only the absolute elite of peak scorers could do it.

So, no Crosby, no Messier, no Forsberg, no Malkin, no Thornton, no Ovechkin, no Sakic, no Selanne, no Kucherov and so on.

• Marcel Dionne: 4 (79-82)

• Charlie Simmer: 2 (80-81)

• Mike Bossy: 2 (81-82)

• Peter Stastny: 2 (82-83)

• Mike Bossy: 3 (84-86)

• Pat LaFontaine: 2 (92-93)

• Kevin Stevens: 2 (92-93)

what am i missing here?

 

[kladorf2005]

He didn’t miss a game this season, so technically both were “full years”. Crosby only played 99 out of 246 possible games those 3 years you’re referencing, it’s pretty different scenario, as well as much shorter sample sizes.

Health is one of Draisaitls best qualities- only 4 missed games in the past 5 seasons.

82 * 2 + 48 = 212 possible games, not 246. Convenient oversight for someone who just rationalized a technicality on a 56 game season.

Even if Crosby fans are desperade enough to include 41 games and 36 games seasons that still does not qualify him, as these seasons did not happen back to back. I am sorry. I know it hurts, but you will get over it.

You guys do know that 2013 was only a 48 game season, right? So 36/48 = 75% of the season. I know it hurts to be wrong, especially when you are so "desperade" to be right, but you will get it over it.