Prospect Info: Lehigh Valley Phantoms (AHL), Reading Royals (ECHL), NCAA, Juniors, Int'l, etc.

[LegionOfDoom91]

Advanced stats for Flyers CHL Prospects:

Morin
http://www.extraskater.com/chl/players?sort=points_ev_per60&team=rim

Laughton
http://www.extraskater.com/chl/players?sort=points_ev_per60&team=osh

Leier
http://www.extraskater.com/chl/players?sort=points_ev_per60&team=por

Goulbourne
http://www.extraskater.com/chl/players?team=kel&sort=points_ev_per60

Anybody want to decipher these for us non-advanced stats crowd?

 

[TheKingPin]

Pre-draft: Flyers Top 10 Prospects
http://flyersprospects.blogspot.com/2014/06/pre-draft-flyers-top-10-prospects.html

I think our top ten is better than it gets credit for. Granted no elite talent but you need top 3 picks for that and we don't get those. I see both ghost and Laughton making it next year. Hextall a going youth movement

 

[Stizzle]

Anybody want to decipher these for us non-advanced stats crowd?

Unless I'm missing it, most of the good fancy stats aren't listed.

 

[Funf]

Advanced stats for Flyers CHL Prospects:

Morin
http://www.extraskater.com/chl/players?sort=points_ev_per60&team=rim

Laughton
http://www.extraskater.com/chl/players?sort=points_ev_per60&team=osh

Leier
http://www.extraskater.com/chl/players?sort=points_ev_per60&team=por

Goulbourne
http://www.extraskater.com/chl/players?team=kel&sort=points_ev_per60

Anybody want to decipher these for us non-advanced stats crowd?

Just off the bat, Morin is leading the team in EV points from defensemen. I like that.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Unless I'm missing it, most of the good fancy stats aren't listed.

Yeah that's what I figured, their regular stat database isn't nearly as extensive as the NHL. It's still cool to see some of the statistical breakdowns & usages though.

Just off the bat, Morin is leading the team in EV points from defensemen. I like that.

Yeah I liked that led the team in ice time as well. It also shows that if he replaced Kostalek next year on the first PP unit his point total should be even higher next year.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Busy day that this went unnoticed but Morin was invited to Team Canada's Summer Development Camp for the 2015 WJC's today.

http://stats.hockeycanada.ca/roster/show/1254000?subseason=165586

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

Awesome to hear .

 

[flyershockey]

Busy day that this went unnoticed but Morin was invited to Team Canada's Summer Development Camp for the 2015 WJC's today.

http://stats.hockeycanada.ca/roster/show/1254000?subseason=165586

Figured as much. He should be a pretty big part of Canada's defense, especially with Nurse, Ekblad and Morrissey all likely to be in the NHL.

 

[Striiker]

Awesome, really hope he makes it.

 

[deadhead]

Figured as much. He should be a pretty big part of Canada's defense, especially with Nurse, Ekblad and Morrissey all likely to be in the NHL.

At worst it'll still accelerate his development.

 

[CS]

Figured as much. He should be a pretty big part of Canada's defense, especially with Nurse, Ekblad and Morrissey all likely to be in the NHL.

We. Should've. ****ing. Taken. Morrissey.

I said it on draft day, and I'm saying it again now.

 

[Curufinwe]

I'd rather have Morin since we already have Ghost.

 

[flyershockey]

We. Should've. ****ing. Taken. Morrissey.

I said it on draft day, and I'm saying it again now.

Morrissey is certainly the more NHL ready prospect, but Homer looked at Morin as his potential homerun prospect. If he puts it all together, he'll be the better NHL player. The last guy they really took a shot on for a potential homerun was Giroux, and I think we all like how that one turned out.

 

[JB51Hockey]

Thoughts about adding the Philadelphia Flyers USPHL Team here?

http://pointstreaksites.com/view/usphlflyers
https://twitter.com/usphlflyers
https://www.facebook.com/USPHLFlyers

 

[RJ8812*]

why? aside from the name, they have no affiliation at all

 

[Hockeypete49]

I'd rather have Morin since we already have Ghost.

Same here. Sam was the one I wanted all along. The kid will be a monster for us one day and I like Ghost way more than Morrissey.

 

[GKJ]

Morin seems like a guy Holmgren would love but Hextall wouldn't. I'm not saying the Flyers need to do something with him, or should, but it wouldn't surprise me a little bit if Hextall used Morin in a trade.

 

[Curufinwe]

You're projecting again. Hextall has already said how important size is on defense.

 

[sa cyred]

You're projecting again. Hextall has already said how important size is on defense.

But he did say how he loved players that can skate. Morin isnt the worse skater, but also is not the best. Reason why L. Schenn and Grossmann might be on their way out. Why they got rid of Hartnell and now have Umberger. Hextall loves players that can skate.

I doubt they move Morin though.

 

[Curufinwe]

Morin is a fantastic skater for his size.

 

[sa cyred]

Morin is a fantastic skater for his size.

Yes for his size. And thats the first time I saw the word fantastic used.... It's still average.

I would consider Coburn's skating to be fantastic for his size.

But I would have to see how it has improved during the camps. Word from people that watched him said that the smaller skaters who skated well still got by him pretty frequently. And thats due to his skating.

 

[Curufinwe]

Comparing him to slugs like Grossmann and Schenn is silly. His skating is also far superior to his draft comparable Zadorov.

 

[flyershockey]

His skating is very good by any standards. Trouble with smaller forwards is something that all bigger young defensemen deal with while learning to play within their frame. He'll adjust and start clobbering them like he does with everyone else as he develops.

 

[Appleyard]

Morin is a fantastic skater for his size.

Yeh, his skating looked fine compared to NHL players in camp 'highlights'... and watching him in some Q games this year he looks a good skater. His stride is powerful and long pretty smooth stride and he can turn well. He is a better skater than half of our D already. His only 'trouble' 'skating-wise' from what I have seen is gap control at times seemingly... and that is the same for 90% of young D men, and that skill is as much mental as physical.

 

[sa cyred]

Comparing him to slugs like Grossmann and Schenn is silly. His skating is also far superior to his draft comparable Zadorov.

Never did I say he was as slow as them. Just said Hex likes extremely good skaters.

His skating is very good by any standards. Trouble with smaller forwards is something that all bigger young defensemen deal with while learning to play within their frame. He'll adjust and start clobbering them like he does with everyone else as he develops.

Hopefully. Or he could be like T. Myers and Jamie Oleksiak who both have trouble.

Dont get me wrong, I like the kid and dont want him traded. Just... his skating is good, not fantastic.

I dont know where this "he is a great skater" is coming from.

From Bill M's earlier in the year article:

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Bill-Meltzer/Meltzers-Musings-Morin-Update-Revisiting-Weber/45/58043

1) Morin has begun the process of smoothing out some of the rough patches in his footwork, but this is not going to happen overnight. He's a good skater for such a big play, but there are still times where he looks awkward as he's crossing over. He'll end up sometimes on the wrong side of the dots and, unless he can use his long reach to break up the play, he'll get beaten.

Like I said. He is a good skater. Not great. If he was a fantastic skater he wouldnt need to work on it.