Speculation: Left Shooting Defensemen of interest to the Jets

[mcpw]

The one thing I question with your assessment is that it doesn't allow for trying harder. There MAY be several teams that you have dismissed that we could deal with if we are flexible but those kinds of deals are bigger, harder to do and consequently much less likely to happen. I would be willing to try and take back salary fro a cap strapped team or to include a good young piece to a team that doesn't want to trade their youth for our age. That kind of thing obviously has to be limited though.

It's not a final end-all assessment, sure.
What I do believe is that teams who have two competent top4 RDs locked up for a lot of money and term will not be in the game, and that's a final end-all assessment because you don't trade for a player you have zero need for. These include, e. g., MTL (Subban/Petry 14.5M, 6 years), WSH (Carlson/Niskanen 9.75M, 3 years), and NYI (Boychuk/Hamonic 10M, 5 years). That's why I've always shut down any NYI speculation on these boards.
Re cap: Most teams who would have cap issues with Byfuglien do not have these cap issues in 15-16. They will start in 16-17. Columbus is a good example. Just considering 15-16, we could easily take Rene Bourque, maybe even add Jared Boll, and they'd have zero problems fitting Byfuglien under the cap. However, then they will have to extend Byfuglien, Murray, Savard, and Jenner next offseason without any UFAs coming off their books. And that's pretty much impossible. Therefore, we'd have to take a long-term cap dump: Scott Hartnell (productive player still, but I'm not sure I want that contract), or Clarkson (yeah...). And that's the point at which you ask yourself "why do we do this?" Isn't one reason to trade Byfuglien the need for cap space next offseason?
Including a 'good young piece' for a team not wanting to trade youth makes me wonder what the return is like? Byfuglien for a good prospect, we add a good prospect so their rebuild still works, they add a cap dump... now what? Byfuglien+prospect for cap dump+prospect? They're still rebuilding, they won't add a 1st round pick. Or another prospect.

 

[ps241]

Well .... that's better.
Good summary although I don't like the results.
It matches to some extent my own feelings. I thought it was important that Chevy have felt out both Ladd and Buff early because some decisions needed to have been made before the extension window opened July 1. I think Buff needed to be traded much earlier. As time passes both the extension and the trade become less likely. I moved through expecting Ladd extended and Buff traded to both to be extended, to Ladd extended Buff pending to now fearing both pending.

The one thing I question with your assessment is that it doesn't allow for trying harder. There MAY be several teams that you have dismissed that we could deal with if we are flexible but those kinds of deals are bigger, harder to do and consequently much less likely to happen. I would be willing to try and take back salary fro a cap strapped team or to include a good young piece to a team that doesn't want to trade their youth for our age. That kind of thing obviously has to be limited though.

I really don't want to lose both next July 1 and I really don't want to overpay both. If all else fails I would rather overpay Ladd to keep at least 1. I'm not sure what would be the max I would go for him. Match Kesler's deal? 6x7? That is starting to sound like too much but Ladd might get that as a UFA.

IMO TNSE will get a deal done with Ladd but they (I don't think its Chevy) are grinders and have a method (see Fro and Tanner Glass as the prime examples). Its a tricky game to use time and incremental movement as a weapon. It can yield you maximum savings but willing players can get fatigue and decide to try the market and move on. Ladd has been around long enough as a vet and has had enough teammates go through it with TNSE to know the drill now so he will get done the hard way.

Buff.........?????? This is the one we could "Fro up" (TM pending for the TNSE over grind).

To be clear we are a budget team so we can't throw money around Ed Snider Peter Chiarelli style but its a fine line.

 

[mcpw]

To be clear we are a budget team so we can't throw money around Ed Snider Peter Chiarelli style but its a fine line.

We're a budget team until the owners say "we can spend to the cap now".
They did that in 2013-14.
That's all we know.

 

[KingBogo]

We're a budget team until the owners say "we can spend to the cap now".
They did that in 2013-14.
That's all we know.

We also know that after the last CBA was signed, Chipman did say that the Jets could now be profitable as a cap team and again added they would be willing to spend to the cap when needed. He was being interviewed on one of the 1290 shows a day or 2 after the CBA signing.

Personally I don't buy the Jets being a hard internal cap team. The difference between where they spent to last season and the cap is a playoff series or two worth of profit. IMO the Jets have way too much young talent in the organization, to not be pushing against the cap soon.

Of course if they start moving out guys like Trouba, Scheifele and Ehlers down the line because they are unwilling to spend the money necessary to hold onto talent I will stand corrected. But then they will risk the gradual decline of their ticket base which will be a far greater hit on profitability. Personally as a ST holder and a big collector of Jets gear I shell out a fairly significant % of my yearly cash flow to support the team. I do this with the understanding/belief True North will do everything in its power to try and win championships. If they don't hold true to that how can they expect people to continue to pay to the extent they do?

I supported the owners in the lockout so we can have cost certainty and afford to compete with the big boys. That's why I accept the big hit on my credit card every month.

 

[Gil Fisher]

Chipman basically said, at the draft, that they would be a cap team now. I don't think it meant this season, but I think he meant that the contracts they had to sign players to over the next 12 months will take them to the cap.

It should be noted that the "budget" includes payroll and capex, there is no distribution to ownership. As we become a cap team, some of the money that has been reinvested in the building will shift to the payroll. Management has taken advantage of the draft and develop strategy to earmark extra money to renos. I think in the near to mid-term future, expansion will fund most of that.

 

[ps241]

We're a budget team until the owners say "we can spend to the cap now".
They did that in 2013-14.
That's all we know.

That's my take as well. We are not maxing out every year and we aren't throwing our money around like some teams do.

 

[ps241]

Chipman basically said, at the draft, that they would be a cap team now. I don't think it meant this season, but I think he meant that the contracts they had to sign players to over the next 12 months will take them to the cap.

It should be noted that the "budget" includes payroll and capex, there is no distribution to ownership. As we become a cap team, some of the money that has been reinvested in the building will shift to the payroll. Management has taken advantage of the draft and develop strategy to earmark extra money to renos. I think in the near to mid-term future, expansion will fund most of that.

Yea when I say budget team I don't mean they won't spend to the cap to win. Stating next season things are most likey getting expensive and they will probably be at or near the cap for two or three seasons at least. One example of what a team on a budget might do is take this season and the next two and create a rolling three year payroll budget where they want to be $8 million below cap total. Most of those saving could be realized this season while they add at the deadline and spend to the cap for the following two seasons.

Which I just realized has nothing to do with Left shooting defensman

 

[mcpw]

Which I just realized has nothing to do with Left shooting defensman

So let's get back to that. Here are the first 10 teams:
LHD depth as listed, N - NHL, P - interesting prospects, (round/year)

ARI
N: Ekman-Larsson, Grossmann
P: Gormley (1/10), Dahlbeck (3/11), Capobianco (3/15)
Gormley will finally make the team. Dahlbeck is probably not better than Chiarot. OEL is untouchable. No fit.

BOS
N: Chara, Krug, Irwin
P: Zboril (1/15), Morrow (1/11), C.Miller (5/12)
Morrow, mainly known because of the Morrow-Morrow trade, might be available. Krug is interesting, but probably hard to get.
C.Miller was a part of the Lucic trade, he has nice boxcars.

BUF
N: Gorges, M.Weber, Colaiacovo, Donovan
P: McCabe (2/12), Guhle (2/15)
McCabe will probably make the team with the worst LD core in the NHL. No fit.

CGY
N: Giordano, Russell, Smid
P: Kylington (2/15), Hickey (2/14), Wotherspoon (2/11)
They are so not-deep on D prospects in general, no fit.

CAR
N: Hainsey, Liles, Jordan
P: Hanifin (1/15), Fleury (1/14), Slavin (4/12)
A pipe dream, a falling top10 pick who probably still comes with a price tag, and a recent signing out of college. Meh.

CHI
N: Keith, Daley
P: Forsling (5/14)
might not be the right place to look for a LD.

COL
N: Beauchemin, B.Stuart, Zadorov, Holden
P: Bigras (2/13), Siemens (1/11)
Zadorov was just traded for, Bigras is their second best overall prospect (96 out of 99 votes on their board...), and Siemens is probably just a bust.

CBJ
N: J.Johnson, Murray, Tyutin, Connauton
P: Werenski (1/15), Carlsson (1/15), Heatherington (2/13)
We won't get their shiny new toys, and Murray neither (offersheet 2016?).
Heatherington is a big kid with an unimpressive statline, but CBJ fans seem to like him (voted 5th best overall prospect on their boards, ahead of Carlsson, Bittner etc).

DAL
N: Oduya, Jokipakka, Nemeth, Oleksiak
P: Lindell (3/12)
They're actually pretty close to having a logjam of young defensemen - LD as well as RD (Klingberg, Honka, Johns).
Somebody will probably be moved. Questions are a) when?, b) what do they want?

More later...

 

[Huffer]

So let's get back to that. Here are the first 10 teams:
LHD depth as listed, N - NHL, P - interesting prospects, (round/year)

Good List. Did you miss the Ducks?

Of everyone on that list, personally I like Lindell the best (fit wise). Although an inter-division trade is unlikely.

 

[mcpw]

Good List. Did you miss the Ducks?

lol i fail at copypasting

Here you go:

ANA
N: Lindholm, Fowler, [Despres], Stoner
P: Theodore (1/13), Larsson (1/15), Pettersson (2/14)
Their roster is set, Theodore will be ready soon, Larsson is shiny new toy. Don't see a fit.

 

[Flair Hay]

Theodore would be a pretty damn good get if we were trading away Buff. He's the only guy besides Gormley (who is not going anywhere) that actually has a chance at being a top pairing guy one day. From the team's listed there, anyway.

I'm still maintaining that we should be looking at trading for a guy better than Enstrom if we really want this team to take a step forward.

If it means trading Buff for futures instead of roster players to stock up for a big trade than so be it.

 

[garret9]

Imagine if we drafted Jake McCabe instead of Lukas Sutter.

Can say hindsight, but Sutter had pre-draft PCS of ~6%. McCabe was highest of the next 10 drafted players with ~18%.

 

[trebendan]

Of everyone on that list, personally I like Lindell the best (fit wise). Although an inter-division trade is unlikely.

I like Lindell the best, too. I thought I read somewhere that he just won defenceman of the year in the Finnish league. The Jets would have to give up a lot to get him. The Jets and Dallas have traded with Chicago pretty recently, so inter-division may not be an issue.

 

[mcpw]

DET
N: Kronwall, [Ericsson], Quincey, B.Smith, Kindl, DeKeyser, Lashoff
P: Ouellet (2/11), Marchenko (7/11)
The team with LHD only. Probably no longer interested in Byfuglien after the Green signing.
Quincey could be moved according to fans due to 'cap reasons', but I don't see any cap problems this season (Franzen LTIR?). Would be a stopgap.
B.Smith could be moved for the right price (was part of the reported Phaneuf package), upside might be limited.
Kindl they want to move, but we should stay away. DeKeyser is not available.
Ouellet and Marchenko are both good prospects. Is it possible to get one?

EDM
N: Sekera, Klefbom, Nikitin, Ference
P: Nurse (1/13), G.Reinhart (1/12), Laleggia (5/12)
Everybody on this list was recently signed, recently traded for, shouldn't be traded for anything, or sucks badly.

FLA
N: Ekblad, Kulikov, Gudbranson, D.Olsen
P: Matheson (1/12), McCoshen (2/13)
Interesting case. Ekblad and Kulikov won't move, Olsen probably is a lesser Chiarot.
Now they have Gudbranson (former 1st rounder) and two good LD prospects. On the right side they only have Petrovic, who is ok but not the most exciting prospect ever.
For at least one more season, their top4 RD is covered by the two dinosaurs Brian Campbell (36) and Willie Mitchell (38), so interest in Byfuglien is probably not too high.
At some point, they'll likely start using the Detroit 6 LHD model, or get rid of somebody. Who and when?

LAK
N: Muzzin, Martinez, McNabb
P: Forbort (1/10)
Forbort is likely a bust. They don't seem to be very deep right now. If they were, Martinez would likely be available.

MIN
N: Suter, Scandella
P: Reilly (4/11), Olofsson (2/13)
Reilly makes the team, Olofsson is a reclamation project after missing a season due to injury. Probably expendable, unclear if worth it.

MTL
N: Markov, Beaulieu, Emelin, Barberio
P: Tinordi (1/10)
Beaulieu's availability is questionable.
Tinordi aka the guy in every Habs trade thread. From what I've read, he'll get a shot this season, and if he fails, we can claim him off waivers and Barberio will play.

NSH
N: Josi, Ekholm, Jackman, Bartley
P: uh.... Lyytinen (5/14), that's actually their best LHD prospect I think.
Yeah, no.

NJD
N: A.Greene, Merrill, Gelinas, J.Moore
P: ????
Fans on the main boards have said that their young D might be available for a prospect forward with top6 upside.
Merrill hasn't looked awful in top4 roles.
Gelinas is, right now, a bottom pairing PP specialist (very productive), with unclear upside once he doesn't play babied minutes.
It doesn't help that their good prospects - Severson, Santini, Jacobs, Hrabarenka - are ALL RHDs.
Mh.

NYI
N: Leddy, de Haan, Hickey, Strait
P: Pelech (3/12), Vande Sompel (3/15), Wotherspoon (4/15), Pilon (5/15)
We've talked about this a couple of times. I don't see anybody available.
Leddy and de Haan (waiting for breakout) stay, Hickey (waiver pickup) and Strait (bad player) will be replaced by Pelech when he's ready.
Their shopping spree for LHD in the '15 draft shows that they wanted to replenish their system. Call again in three years.

NYR
N: McDonagh, M.Staal, Yandle
P: Skjei (1/12)
Skjei doesn't look too promising. Win now team doesn't touch their roster players (and we shouldn't touch Staal).

 

[Daximus]

NJD
N: A.Greene, Merrill, Gelinas, J.Moore
P: ????
Fans on the main boards have said that their young D might be available for a prospect forward with top6 upside.
Merrill hasn't looked awful in top4 roles.
Gelinas is, right now, a bottom pairing PP specialist (very productive), with unclear upside once he doesn't play babied minutes.
It doesn't help that their good prospects - Severson, Santini, Jacobs, Hrabarenka - are ALL RHDs.
Mh.

To me Merril is the most interesting LHD. Would it be worth it to trade a forward prospect to acquire him? He's already shown he can handle top 4 minutes and could very well be a top pairing defencemen on the Jets. He's got size, puck moving and defensive ability.
Trade a forward prospect for Merril then move Buff for a 1st rounder and a new forward prospect.
Top 4 defence of
Enstrom - Myers
Merril - Trouba

Then by the time Enstrom ages himself out, Merril takes his place and Morrissey steps into the lineup.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

So let's get back to that. Here are the first 10 teams:
LHD depth as listed, N - NHL, P - interesting prospects, (round/year)

ARI
N: Ekman-Larsson, Grossmann
P: Gormley (1/10), Dahlbeck (3/11), Capobianco (3/15)
Gormley will finally make the team. Dahlbeck is probably not better than Chiarot. OEL is untouchable. No fit.

BOS
N: Chara, Krug, Irwin
P: Zboril (1/15), Morrow (1/11), C.Miller (5/12)
Morrow, mainly known because of the Morrow-Morrow trade, might be available. Krug is interesting, but probably hard to get.
C.Miller was a part of the Lucic trade, he has nice boxcars.

BUF
N: Gorges, M.Weber, Colaiacovo, Donovan
P: McCabe (2/12), Guhle (2/15)
McCabe will probably make the team with the worst LD core in the NHL. No fit.

CGY
N: Giordano, Russell, Smid
P: Kylington (2/15), Hickey (2/14), Wotherspoon (2/11)
They are so not-deep on D prospects in general, no fit.

CAR
N: Hainsey, Liles, Jordan
P: Hanifin (1/15), Fleury (1/14), Slavin (4/12)
A pipe dream, a falling top10 pick who probably still comes with a price tag, and a recent signing out of college. Meh.

CHI
N: Keith, Daley
P: Forsling (5/14)
might not be the right place to look for a LD.

COL
N: Beauchemin, B.Stuart, Zadorov, Holden
P: Bigras (2/13), Siemens (1/11)
Zadorov was just traded for, Bigras is their second best overall prospect (96 out of 99 votes on their board...), and Siemens is probably just a bust.

CBJ
N: J.Johnson, Murray, Tyutin, Connauton
P: Werenski (1/15), Carlsson (1/15), Heatherington (2/13)
We won't get their shiny new toys, and Murray neither (offersheet 2016?).
Heatherington is a big kid with an unimpressive statline, but CBJ fans seem to like him (voted 5th best overall prospect on their boards, ahead of Carlsson, Bittner etc).

DAL
N: Oduya, Jokipakka, Nemeth, Oleksiak
P: Lindell (3/12)
They're actually pretty close to having a logjam of young defensemen - LD as well as RD (Klingberg, Honka, Johns).
Somebody will probably be moved. Questions are a) when?, b) what do they want?

More later...

Not a very encouraging picture so far.
Realistic though.
The solution could be to get ambitious. Go after someone really good who might be presumed to be near untouchable (I dislike calling anyone untouchable like you dislike me saying that anyone is available for a price but near untouchable is OK). Of course that means being willing to pay. I think we need to adjust our thinking from being penny-pinching paupers to being able to pay for what we want.

Theodore would be a pretty damn good get if we were trading away Buff. He's the only guy besides Gormley (who is not going anywhere) that actually has a chance at being a top pairing guy one day. From the team's listed there, anyway.

I'm still maintaining that we should be looking at trading for a guy better than Enstrom if we really want this team to take a step forward.

If it means trading Buff for futures instead of roster players to stock up for a big trade than so be it.

See above. If not => Enstrom we should at least aim for that potential, that ceiling. That means being willing to part with something good. 30+ Buff on an expiring contract is not enough to get a 25- 1st pair D on an ELC/RFA with term.

 

[voyageur]

I don't see a pressing need for a LHD, Enstrom-Myers played a pretty good shutdown game down the stretch. Chiarot and Buff played #1 minutes admirably, and the Jets must be keep a window open for Morrissey to be the top 4 defenseman we project him to be, I think playing with Buff would be a good experience for the youngster, better than playing with the equally young Trouba at this stage. Stuart had a good playoff which solidified his role on the team. Having Stafford re-sign seems to me a commitment to his importance on the team. I would prefer keeping Buff and playing him on his offside to most of the players available. I am also ok with keeping Trouba's minutes limited, as it makes the impending contract negotiations easier, not forcing us to commit big money to him, too soon. I don't think Trouba is anywhere near Buff's impact on the game yet, and we should not rush him to get there.

Pardy is good for depth, was outstanding on the PK, and very positive for the team, even when not playing. Jay Harrison also produced a positive result in spite of a limited game.

The concern is Enstrom's health.

However if within the next year the projection is to have Morrissey as a top 4, and Stuart as 6, the most plausible solution would be to trade Toby for a healthier Toby?

If we are looking to upgrade on depth, beyond Chiarot, Xavier Ouellet would be a good acquisition.

 

[ps241]

I don't see a pressing need for a LHD, Enstrom-Myers played a pretty good shutdown game down the stretch. Chiarot and Buff played #1 minutes admirably, and the Jets must be keep a window open for Morrissey to be the top 4 defenseman we project him to be, anywhere other than the French alps think playing with Buff would be a good experience for the youngster, better than playing with the equally young Trouba at this stage. Stuart had a good playoff which solidified his role on the team. Having Stafford re-sign seems to me a commitment to his importance on the team. I would prefer keeping Buff and playing him on his offside to most of the players available. I am also ok with keeping Trouba's minutes limited, as it makes the impending contract negotiations easier, not forcing us to commit big money to him, too soon. I don't think Trouba is anywhere near Buff's impact on the game yet, and we should not rush him to get there.

Pardy is good for depth, was outstanding on the PK, and very positive for the team, even when not playing. Jay Harrison also produced a positive result in spite of a limited game.

The concern is Enstrom's health.

However if within the next year the projection is to have Morrissey as a top 4, and Stuart as 6, the most plausible solution would be to trade Toby for a healthier Toby?

If we are looking to upgrade on depth, beyond Chiarot, Xavier Ouellet would be a good acquisition.

I think Trouba is easily ready for top pairing with a legit partner. Not many guys in the NHL can replace Buff's scoring but Trouba with Entrom is a very nice top pair. I also think Trouba is the perfect guy to shelter Josh if he is needed to play top 4 minutes. After all how many RHD in the NHL could carry Stu in a top 4 position? Buff was good with Ben but I need to see a larger sample size. Trouba may be young but he is going into his 3rd season and I think he would be the best fit for A top 4 Morrissey when that happens. Sadly Stu seems welded to Jacob.

 

[KingBogo]

Great analysis of all the team's LHD depth mcpw. I guess that kept you busy for awhile? The more you look through it though, the more clear it is there currently isn't a lot out there. LHD that could step right into a top 4 role are either unattainable without a big ticket price tag, or are not clearly better than what we currently have. And it is questionable to how big a need it actually is for the Jets. Though I believe there has been a slight decline in Enstrom's game he is still clearly a top 4 d-man. Chariot is a bit of a question mark, but he performed admirably last season when called up and it is very conceivable was see continued growth in his game to where he becomes a solid 2nd pairing guy. Stuart with all his warts is still the tough as nails heart and soul guy most coaches will find room for in their bottom pairing. We should just stop playing him above his station in life. Pardy is almost a perfect # 7/8 d-man. Can spend long periods in the press box and step in without missing a beat and is just happy to have steady NHL work. I don't see a glaring need.

But the wild card is young Mr. Morrissey. Last year it was clear he wasn't ready and I buy into the theory that he added too much weight which threw off his game. IMO Josh is a very bright kid with high end talent and will have learned from his experiences over the last couple years. I can certainly see him being very impressive in camp, but being sent to the A due to numbers and his protected waiver status. But again this will be a good thing as he can start the season on the top pairing in the A with #1 PP time. Ideally he establishes himself as the top d-man on the Moose. When the inevitable opportunity comes he might step in without a beat and never look back. Even if this all doesn't play out perfectly, how many around here doubt he will be top 4 within a couple years?

One last point. I'd much rather see Morrissey with Trouba than Buff. While Trouba can gamble himself at times he is on a trajectory to develop a very strong 2-way game and has enough experience now to guide a rookie. Buff will always be Buff. IMO Morrissey will need a little more seasoning before having to read when Buff will go for the "big event" play and cover accordingly.

 

[mcpw]

Last part; spoiler: there isn't much.

OTT
N: Methot, Cowen, Wiercioch, [Borowiecki], Phillips
P: Chabot (1/15), Wikstrand (7/12)
They might still move a piece. Cowen is a reclamation project, probably bust.
Wiercioch might be available, he played in an enhanced role under the new coach.
I've read somewhere that the GM will pressure the coach to give Cowen top4 minutes. Which is hilarious, and might make Wiercioch available.

PHI
N: Streit, MacDonald, Del Zotto, N.Schultz
P: Provorov (1/15), Sanheim (1/14), Morin (1/13), Gostisbehere (3/12), Hagg (2/13)
Something might be available. Not sure what it will cost. No, not Byfuglien.

PIT
N: Maatta, D.Pouliot, I.Cole, Scuderi, Erixon
P: Dumoulin (2/09)
They're not really in the position to give up anything. Except for Erixon, who might hit the waiver wire again.

SJS
N: Vlasic, Martin, Dillon
P: Mueller (1/13)
Unlikely.

STL
N: Bouwmeester, Gunnarsson, Butler, Benoit
P: Lindbohm (6/12), Dunn (2/15)
Lindbohm will likely make the roster, nothing expendable here, really.

TBL
N: Hedman, Garrison, Carle, Nesterov
P: Koekkoek (1/12), Masin (2/14)
Hey, we could get Carle if he waives. Don't know if we should. The rest will stay for now.

TOR
N: Phaneuf, Rielly, Gardiner, Marincin
P: Dermott (2/15), Percy (1/11), Harrington (2/11)
They're buying players like Marincin or Harrington, not selling them.

VAN
N: Edler, Hamhuis, Sbisa
P: Mackenze Stewart (7/14), can also play wing.
Well, I guess if we're really super-serious about our 2LD problem, we could try to get Hamhuis.
But he has to waive, and we'd have to pay the price for one year of a 33yo.

WSH
N: Orpik, Alzner, Orlov, N.Schmidt, Chorney, Stanton
P: Siegenthaler (2/15)
That's a lot of LDs there, some of them young. I would guess that they want to exploit them being cost-controlled for now, and then decide with which they'll move on.
We'd probably have to pay a big price.

 

[blues10]

Chipman basically said, at the draft, that they would be a cap team now. I don't think it meant this season, but I think he meant that the contracts they had to sign players to over the next 12 months will take them to the cap.

It should be noted that the "budget" includes payroll and capex, there is no distribution to ownership. As we become a cap team, some of the money that has been reinvested in the building will shift to the payroll. Management has taken advantage of the draft and develop strategy to earmark extra money to renos. I think in the near to mid-term future, expansion will fund most of that.

Perhaps, but all of the revenues from gaming at the Shark Club has to be re-invested in the building and none of it is to be used for payroll as per TNSE's agreement with the province of Manitoba. Much of the money being spent on upgrades at the MTSC is courtesy of gaming revenues from the Shark Club. Expect the upgrades to continue as long as TNSE has an agreement from the province to share gaming revenues from the Shark Club. Of course, any monies being spent on top of the gaming revenue stream could be diverted to payroll. I would have to re-check some numbers to see exactly how much $$$ that would be. I wouldn't expect it to be much.

 

[10Ducky10]

Next year's pairings?

Enstrom - Myers
Buff - Trouba
Chiarot/Stuart - Postma

Maurice likes to use Myers in the shut down role (among other roles) so I see him paired with Enstrom. I I think Buff will move to LHD at least until Morrissey makes the big club (around Christmas?). Chiarot can be moved to 2nd line in a pinch as he has proved last year. Stuart is loved by management and we have to live with him. He would be our 7th D if it were up to me. I would move Harrison for whatever I could get for him (canes are still picking up 450k of his 1.5 m contract).

I would give up a lot to get OEL from Arizona...

Would Buff, a 1st and Petan be enough? If not, throw in De Leo.

 

[Huffer]

Next year's pairings?

Enstrom - Myers
Buff - Trouba
Chiarot/Stuart - Postma

Maurice likes to use Myers in the shut down role (among other roles) so I see him paired with Enstrom. I I think Buff will move to LHD at least until Morrissey makes the big club (around Christmas?). Chiarot can be moved to 2nd line in a pinch as he has proved last year. Stuart is loved by management and we have to live with him. He would be our 7th D if it were up to me. I would move Harrison for whatever I could get for him (canes are still picking up 450k of his 1.5 m contract).

I would give up a lot to get OEL from Arizona...

Would Buff, a 1st and Petan be enough? If not, throw in De Leo.

I would love to see those pairs (if Buff can get re-signed). I'd like to see Trouba with Enstrom as well.

But no, Buff, a 1st, and Petan is not enough for OEL IMO. Maybe if Buff was traded for a 1st and a prospect 1st, and we sent two the 1sts and 2 prospects. The Coyotes have no need to add Buff right now.

 

[garret9]

Enstrom and Myers both have done well (to different degrees) in shot repression, but struggle in shot volume creation.
Trouba and Byfuglien have done the opposite (both at exceptional degrees).

I would really like to see Enstrom with one of Trouba or Byfuglien if we do go to one of the 3 RH shots on the LS.

 

[10Ducky10]

I''m thinking Maurice pairs Enstrom with Myers against the other teams top lines, if he can't get that matchup, he is happy with Buff and Trouba.
I wonder how well Postma does this year?
It sure would be nice to see him play 12 - 15 minutes a game of sound hockey alongside Chiarot. Myers- Enstrom and Buff - Trouba will easily eat up 45 - 48 minutes of a game.

I know, I know, Stuart will be out there.