LeBrun: will VGK be buyers at TDL?

[LadyStanley]

May be behind paywall.

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[derriko]

Though I can’t and won’t read the article, it’s quite the conundrum McPhee has on his hands.

You buy at the deadline. You possibly boost your team and win another game or two more in the playoffs.

Stay the course. Keep the lines together who have been building chemistry together the whole year, and this team has shown it can be a home ice advantage hockey team.

Sell. You improve on the terrible non-NHL depth and picks though may move a piece or two that could’ve helped you in the playoffs.

Im only for buying if you are only trading off the Hunt / Sbisa / Nosek / Lindberg / Merrill / Carrier types and a 3rd or later pick. That’s not going to but you much at all, and the team is literally only lacking a 1C or top pairing D. I find that a pointless venture.

Moving those guys for futures would be a better idea, which I don’t know if that counts as selling or not. Trading some depth won’t hurt the team much and you can add a little more future prices.

I would stay the course unless one of the pending UFA’s is not going to re-sign with the organization. Stay the course. We have a good thing going right now. No reason to shake it up. I have my fingers crossed Neal and Perron are both willing to sign 3-5 year extensions. If not, it’s not the end of the world. You would get bare minimum a mid 1st round pick.

 

[PunkRockLocke]

That’s not going to but you much at all, and the team is literally only lacking a 1C or top pairing D. I find that a pointless venture.

I agree. If not much changes and they're still comfortably in a playoff spot leading up to the deadline, do nothing. Trading away key players would not look good to the fan base, and marketing the game is the most important thing. Getting in the playoffs and maybe making some noise is key. I suppose if you are 100% sure a guy like Neal or Perron won't re-sign, then you may need to deal him....maybe.

I also don't think they should buy. Like you say, to get anything of value that they may be missing (a top 6 forward or top 2-3 D) it will cost a hefty price. They shouldn't be giving up any futures - but also not rushing to acquire futures while the team is winning.

 

[derriko]

We should just save 12-13 mil in cap space for when Karlsson and Doughty hit the market in two seasons

 

[albator71]

Should the VGK be buyers or seller at the trade deadline? What will they do with Neal, Perron and Marchessault? Do you think there's a chance all three would resigned with Vegas or is it better for the franchise to trade them and get draft picks? I hope they keep Marchessault he's still young only 27, him and Karlsson are playing so well together its a thing a beauty to watch

 

[BattleBorn]

Should the VGK be buyers or seller at the trade deadline? What will they do with Neal, Perron and Marchessault? Do you think there's a chance all three would resigned with Vegas or is it better for the franchise to trade them and get draft picks? I hope they keep Marchessault he's still young only 27, him and Karlsson are playing so well together its a thing a beauty to watch

Just leave it as it is.

If you can get a Perron-type guy for a couple of 2nd rounders, I'm in. Otherwise, leave it alone.

People saying they need an additional guy to make it through the playoffs are the same people that predicted they'd get 68 points this entire season. Just let it roll.

 

[Asuna]

i don't think vegas will be buyers. don't think they should be either. go into the playoffs with what got you there. it'll be fun to watch!

 

[IceNeophyte]

i don't think vegas will be buyers. don't think they should be either. go into the playoffs with what got you there. it'll be fun to watch!

Unless something happens on the IR end of things, and a name comes up that is more attractive than Carpenter, Hunt, or bringing up a Wolf.

 

[willy702]

Most aren't considering a few other points here. Neal has a modified NTC and I don't think he really wants to go anywhere. Now management may decide they don't want him anywhere near his fair price so they go hard to trade him, but just asking him for his list of no go will change the relationship dynamic. If someone shows ridiculous amounts of desire for him before the deadline then you have to consider it, but I don't see him being worth a first in a loaded draft. Maybe a second, but if its a contending team that means its like pick 50 or worse unless a team has an additional 2nd to send. Maybe a first in two years, but is that really what GMGM is pining for?

All things considered I don't see this shaping up to be the market to trade him into. If the team was doing poorly they would have been stuck with trading him for whatever they could get. A team doing well means whatever you can get probably is not worth it. With this squad I'm pretty sure he wants to stay, hear him out and see what it will take to stay. A guy with four stops in the NHL seems perfect to make the pitch to stay, be a leader and do it for a fair, but not unreasonable deal.

 

[BattleBorn]

Neal was one of the first guys to say he wants to stay in Las Vegas long term, it was really early. I'm guessing he'll be reasonable when it's time to talk money.

I agree that there's really nothing reasonable worth trading Neal for at this point. I said earlier today I'd be okay with a 19-20 year old prospect and a 1st, but I don't even know if I'd take that right now. Late first? Meh.

 

[IceNeophyte]

Neal was one of the first guys to say he wants to stay in Las Vegas long term, it was really early. I'm guessing he'll be reasonable when it's time to talk money.

I agree that there's really nothing reasonable worth trading Neal for at this point. I said earlier today I'd be okay with a 19-20 year old prospect and a 1st, but I don't even know if I'd take that right now. Late first? Meh.

His value as a leader on the team could outlive his excellent on-ice contribution. I wouldn't trade him. The only ones I think I'd trade, I'm not sure we'd have any takers.

 

[CupInSIX]

This is why I said it was too soon to talk about trading Neal back in October.

I wouldn't be a buyer if it means adding yet another impending free agent, that's for darn sure. They've already 5 big UFA/RFA signings to look forward to.

 

[GKG18]

I think the marketing angle is a bit inflated. GMGM cares not about that, nor should he. His job is to win, period. Just like Turk has to put his best lines on the ice, regardless of contract (Shippy?). GMGM has probably been banging the phones regularly between other GMs and his players' agents and knows his direction more than we do. I'm preparing for a mix of disappointment (in losing a player I like) and surprise (in gaining picks and/or other players).

 

[LadyStanley]

LeBrun: Trade deadline needs for the NHL's top teams

Behind paywall. For VGK, they have scouting meetings this next week. How they do this road heavy month may provide answer. Not selling would have major stamp of approval for team.

 

[HanSolo]

I think the marketing angle is a bit inflated. GMGM cares not about that, nor should he. His job is to win, period. Just like Turk has to put his best lines on the ice, regardless of contract (Shippy?). GMGM has probably been banging the phones regularly between other GMs and his players' agents and knows his direction more than we do. I'm preparing for a mix of disappointment (in losing a player I like) and surprise (in gaining picks and/or other players).

I don't think this is necessarily true. Our top 6 has more or as much chemistry with each other than any team in the league. Disrupting things in the forward group could be too disruptive. I can see a move for a good bottom 6 guy or a strong bottom pairing defenseman but overall I don't think McPhee has much reason to feel pressure to break this roster up in any way.

 

[CupInSIX]

GMGM can also sell without 'selling' as he's got Pirri, Pulkinnen, Reinhart and Garrison in the minors. All could fetch conditional 7ths (yippie).

 

[MJ65]

There is nothing wrong with tweaking a bit here and there but this team is a model of consistency and is an example for every team in the league as " how you play as a team and without a real super star"

This team is for real and a real threat going very deep in the playoffs - Kudos to the management and the team (keep it up)

Note: even last night a bounce here and there could have changed the result, a very well played game

 

[ChanceVegas]

I really don't see much that this team needs, obviously. The only thing I could see is a PP specialist. That seems to be the biggest weakness. And it might even be solved by a call up?

Golden Knights Mailbag: Questions for the New Year

"They have Pirri in the AHL, though. He's excelled on the power play in Chicago and did well on the power play in New York. I think if he's given a shot, in a middle-six role with some power-play time, he could impress. There's no need to trade for a power-play specialist when there's an NHL-ready one in the pipeline."

 

[derriko]

He’s sniper though, not a half wall QB.

 

[Matias Maccete]

Theodore can't qb the power play?

 

[canuckster19]

We should just save 12-13 mil in cap space for when Karlsson and Doughty hit the market in two seasons

Not unrealistic to assume that's a possibility.

 

[LadyStanley]

More like $20m+

 

[Bart9349]

Making a (Vegas) draw poker analogy: This team should stand pat (in other words, discard no cards [players] at all and thus keep the original hand [team].)

 

[VanIslander]

I don't like the question.

On the one hand, it suggests the team might sacrifice the future for the present, which is patently absurd for the expansion team. The team isn't going to take on any short-term UFA rentals in exchange for giving away its picks or prospects.

On the other hand, it's clear the team would buy a longer-term contract at the trade deadline from a nonplayoff team looking at blowing themselves up and going full rebuild if the deal made sense beyond this season (OEL on a sign-extension-and-trade deal or maybe Goligoski).

So, really there is no light shed by asking the question. Instead, the question should be:
To sell or not to sell? And if not to sell, then... To re-sign before the playoffs or risk losing as a UFA this summer? James Neal! David Perron! Luca Sbisa!
(Of course, this means LeBrun and the other Canadian media would have to actually talk about Vegas players instead of speculate about where more media-heavy team players might be heading.)

 

[Matias Maccete]

I don't like the question.

On the one hand, it suggests the team might sacrifice the future for the present, which is patently absurd for the expansion team. The team isn't going to take on any short-term UFA rentals in exchange for giving away its picks or prospects.

On the other hand, it's clear the team would buy a longer-term contract at the trade deadline from a nonplayoff team looking at blowing themselves up and going full rebuild if the deal made sense beyond this season (OEL on a sign-extension-and-trade deal or maybe Goligoski).

So, really there is no light shed by asking the question. Instead, the question should be:
To sell or not to sell? And if not to sell, then... To re-sign before the playoffs or risk losing as a UFA this summer? James Neal! David Perron! Luca Sbisa!
(Of course, this means LeBrun and the other Canadian media would have to actually talk about Vegas players instead of speculate about where more media-heavy team players might be heading.)

I don't think the knights want Goligoski. He has not been good. OEL has been meh too. Maybe getting out of the festering pit that is the coyotes helps them though.