Series Talk: Leafs vs CBJ Part 2

[Cleetus]

I haven't seen any commercials that say that, but the NHL does a lot of weird things to simplify for casual fans. Commercials are not what decides what the playoffs are. The NHL put out a press release specifically addressing this question, saying that it was the playoffs. The players are accumulating playoff stats. Team playoff streaks continued, and droughts were ended. Records have been recorded as playoff records. The page on NHL.com specifically about different playoff formats over the years includes the qualifiers. They have a line that specifically says their playoff format features 24 teams, and they have another line that specifically says "The 2020 Stanley Cup Playoffs begin with the 2020 Stanley Cup Qualifiers". You literally can't get more straightforward than that. Anybody saying that this isn't the playoffs is flat out wrong.

and again the NHL does weird things to simplify things for casual fans, so your info is about as convincing as mine next, to me the playoffs beging on Tuesday, you can stick with what ever your theory is, to me 16 teams that compete for the cup means playoffs to me, not qualifiers to get into the playoffs

 

[Dekes For Days]

and again the NHL does weird things to simplify things for casual fans, so your info is about as convincing as mine lol

No, a commercial or a media headline is not the same thing as the reality of how everything is being recorded, and it's not the same thing as an official statement by the NHL, and it's not the same thing as the official written explanation of the playoff format on records.NHL.com.

 

[Cleetus]

No, a commercial or a media headline is not the same thing as the reality of how everything is being recorded, and it's not the same thing as an official statement by the NHL, and it's not the same thing as the official written explanation of the playoff format on records.NHL.com.

NHL website made for fans as well as commercials yawn

 

[Dekes For Days]

NHL website made for fans as well as commercials yawn

The records.NHL.com site is not just a fun time for casual fans. It's the written and detailed explanation of all historical playoff formats. There is no ambiguity. There is no other interpretation. They specifically say it's the playoffs, which is consistent with how everything is being recorded and their official press release and statement regarding this.

 

[Cleetus]

The records.NHL.com site is not just a fun time for casual fans. It's the written and detailed explanation of all historical playoff formats. There is no ambiguity. There is no other interpretation. They specifically say it's the playoffs, which is consistent with how everything is being recorded and their official press release and statement regarding this.

Triggered! lol, to me and some others playoffs begin on Tuesday, you can believe what you want though good luck!

 

[Dekes For Days]

to me and some others playoffs begin on Tuesday

Then you're factually wrong. This is not an opinion thing.

 

[Cleetus]

Then you're factually wrong. This is not an opinion thing.

again I look at it Different than you do, I think I can believe what I want, and you can too, some will agree and some will disagree, playoffs start on Tuesday to me, if im factually wrong so be it, but I doubt it, to me if the leafs win Tomorrow they are in the playoffs, if they lose they failed to qualify for the Playoffs its all I really care about, if you think you are right thats good for you

 

[danron1376]

winner gets to play tampa without stamkos and potentially without headman

 

[Dekes For Days]

again I look at it Different than you do, I think I can believe what I want, and you can too, some will agree and some will disagree, playoffs start on Tuesday to me, if im factually wrong so be it, but I doubt it, to me if the leafs win Tomorrow they are in the playoffs, if they lose they failed to qualify for the Playoffs its all I really care about, if you think you are right thats good for you

Again, it's not a matter of opinion. What you think is irrelevant. The NHL decides. The NHL says it's the playoffs.

The Leafs have made the playoffs. If they win tomorrow, they have a playoff series win.

 

[Dekes For Days]

winner gets to play tampa without stamkos and potentially without headman

Has there been any clarification about what exactly is wrong with Stamkos, or if he will for sure miss the next round? I thought he had healed from his earlier injury?

 

[Cleetus]

Again, it's not a matter of opinion. What you think is irrelevant. The NHL decides. The NHL says it's the playoffs.

The Leafs have made the playoffs. If they win tomorrow, they have a playoff series win.

again I can view it as any way I want too I can really careless, I wont count it as a series win, but an accomplishment none the less

 

[Cleetus]

Has there been any clarification about what exactly is wrong with Stamkos, or if he will for sure miss the next round? I thought he had healed from his earlier injury?

who said that?, you think if he was healthy he would of played no?

 

[WestCoastLeafs]

Keefe has done everything Babcock refused to do the past 3 years. Large minutes double shifting his stars and loading a line when youre down. Playing the hot line rather than a preconceived time allotment for each line. In game adjustments.

Its refreshing

Babcock would have sent out 3 skaters for OT cause that's what he's done all season.

 

[Dekes For Days]

who said that?, you think if he was healthy he would of played no?

His timeline for recovery was a while ago and he was practicing with the team during the earlier phases.

 

[Cleetus]

His timeline for recovery was a while ago and he was practicing with the team during the earlier phases.

I would of thought if he was healthy he would of played in 1 of the games, maybe a setback who knows?

 

[danron1376]

Has there been any clarification about what exactly is wrong with Stamkos, or if he will for sure miss the next round? I thought he had healed from his earlier injury?

looks like he re-aggravated an injury before training camp, which is why he hasn't been playing. but because his status is unknown, he could still play at some point later in the series.
Stamkos won't play for Lightning against Flyers in round-robin finale

 

[SeaOfBlue]

looks like he re-aggravated an injury before training camp, which is why he hasn't been playing. but because his status is unknown, he could still play at some point later in the series.
Stamkos won't play for Lightning against Flyers in round-robin finale

When they say a guy is out indefinitely, that typically means he is not coming back any time soon.

 

[Kurtz]

and again the NHL does weird things to simplify things for casual fans, so your info is about as convincing as mine next, to me the playoffs beging on Tuesday, you can stick with what ever your theory is, to me 16 teams that compete for the cup means playoffs to me, not qualifiers to get into the playoffs

I have no horse in this race, but Dekes for Days argument is obviously considerably stronger.

 

[saffronleaf]

I have no horse in this race, but Dekes for Days argument is obviously considerably stronger.

I think they're both kinda right.

Dekes is right that all of this is being recorded as effectively the playoffs, with no distinction being made in the record books. So Matthews' 6 points are counted just as same as the points he got against Boston last year for all intents and purposes. Same with team stats.

On the other hand, I get where rubous is coming from. If we lose tomorrow, I won't think 'oh the Leafs got just as far as they did last year'. I'll think that we basically failed to qualify for the playoffs. We took a step back. We didn't lose in round 1. We lost in round 0. It'll be the same to me as not making the playoffs.

 

[Lightsol]

Triggered! lol

Why do people celebrate like this when they "triggered" somebody by showing they lack intelligence? It's like ending an argument with "I'm a stupid idiot, therefore I win!"

 

[LeafsNation75]

I think they're both kinda right.

Dekes is right that all of this is being recorded as effectively the playoffs, with no distinction being made in the record books. So Matthews' 6 points are counted just as same as the points he got against Boston last year for all intents and purposes. Same with team stats.

On the other hand, I get where rubous is coming from. If we lose tomorrow, I won't think 'oh the Leafs got just as far as they did last year'. I'll think that we basically failed to qualify for the playoffs. We took a step back. We didn't lose in round 1. We lost in round 0. It'll be the same to me as not making the playoffs.

When you look up Auston Matthews stats on a website like HockeyDB, they list what he's done against Columbus in the playoff stat column for the 2019-20 season.

Auston Matthews Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com

 

[saffronleaf]

Why do people celebrate like this when they "triggered" somebody by showing they lack intelligence? It's like ending an argument with "I'm a stupid idiot, therefore I win!"

Triggered! lol

 

[RealisticLeaf55]

Any news on Werenski? Is he starting? Also will Muzzin play right away in the next round if we were to make it?

 

[hoglund]

again I can view it as any way I want too I can really careless, I wont count it as a series win, but an accomplishment none the less

Because of the playoff format this year ALL the stats for the post season are flawed look at Montreal, they've "qualified" for the playoffs and at the time of the pause they were 10 points out with no chance to make the playoffs. No one is going to give series wins or even the Stanley cup "winner" any respect.

 

[A1LeafNation]

Any news on Werenski? Is he starting? Also will Muzzin play right away in the next round if we were to make it?

For all we know Muzzin could play tonight and Werenski not.