Rumor: Leafs heavily scouting Carolina

[Duke16]

If we have to give up anything off the roster, I'd rather just get someone cheaper. For real though, Pesce's value is probably similar to Muzzin's because of age and contract (Muzzin is better though).

If they would take futures:
Bracco, Rasanen, 2021 1st (protected), 2019 4th (STL)

Bracco >/= Grundstrom
Rasanen < Durzi
2019 1st = 2021 1st
An extra mid-pick

Dump Zaitsev in a corresponding move.

 

[PromisedLand]

WTF? Is this tweet legit?

May be Bobby Mac should stop reading my posts
Post-Game Talk: - Complete Domination, Leafs win

I'd be open to Johnsson+Zaitsev+2nd for Pesce;

if Canes fret then you add another 2nd

Johnsson+Zaitsev+2nd+2nd for Pesce

Zaitsev's contract needs to go and FAST!

Protection List for Seattle Expansion

Forward

1. Matthews
2. Marner
3. Tavares
4. Nylander
5. Kadri
6. Kapanen
7. Hyman

Defense

1. Rielly
2. Dermott (EDIT)
3. Pesce

Goalie
Freddy

Expose Gardiner/Muzzin (assuming Gardiner is re-signed); Brown. May be pay Seattle 1st rounder to make sure they don't pick Gardiner/Muzzin?

 

[Nineteen67]

Dealing AJ for a pretty good D is a no brainer. I don’t know how they fit it under the cap though. Does waiting until the deadline matter?

 

[I am Canadian]

Would they do AJ + Z for Pesce + 2nd?

I'm wary of giving away young talented forwards though.

Zaitsev has pretty terrible value, it would cost probably a 2nd + a prospect for someone to take his contract.

I would offer Zaitsev, Johnsson, 2nd + Bracco for Pesce

 

[Orfieus]

I can see AJ + Bracco + 2nd for Pesce

But first Toronto would need to trade Zaitsev

 

[Buds17]

Interesting if something happens prior to the trade deadline. Would require more moves long term, if not also short term. Thought the Muzzin trade was the big in season move.

 

[Dog]

I rather trade Kapanen than Johnsson.

 

[kb]

Zaitsev has pretty terrible value, it would cost probably a 2nd + a prospect for someone to take his contract.

I would offer Zaitsev, Johnsson, 2nd + Bracco for Pesce

Zaitsev has value. Just not a lot. RHD on cost controlled contract. Put him on a slower team and he's going to look so much better.

 

[Gabriel426]

Brown for Pesce, that’s a better deal.

 

[Leafs at Knight]

Gotta love the Toronto media. Put up a 4 point game, you go to turn on the tv and they're talking about trading you...nice.

 

[Puckstuff]

WTF? Is this tweet legit?

May be Bobby Mac should stop reading my posts
Post-Game Talk: - Complete Domination, Leafs win

I'd be open to Johnsson+Zaitsev+2nd for Pesce;

if Canes fret then you add another 2nd

Johnsson+Zaitsev+2nd+2nd for Pesce

Zaitsev's contract needs to go and FAST!

Protection List for Seattle Expansion

Forward

1. Matthews
2. Marner
3. Tavares
4. Nylander
5. Kadri
6. Kapanen
7. Hyman

Defense

1. Rielly
2. Gardiner/Muzzin (whoever sticks around)
3. Pesce

Goalie
Freddy

Muzzin at 4 million would be protected ahead of Gardiner AINEC. Is Dermott protected in the expansion draft because he is ELC?

Carolina probably needs to move a D because they will lose one to Seattle as it stands right now.

 

[PromisedLand]

Would feel more comfortable about dealing AJ if we still had Grundstrom.

Our LW depth falls in the hands of Moore & Engvall, not exactly great.

we have guys like Bracco in the system who can be traded to get the LW of equal value.

Matthews-Kapanen
Tavares-Marner
Kadri-Nylander

for 4 seasons (including this one) is solid depth; even when Marleau is not here anymore

Hyman-Tavares-Marner
Moore-Matthews-Kapanen (I expect Matthews to start carrying players starting next season)
xxx-Kadri-Nylander
xxx-Goat-Brown

This is still [pretty good compared to many other teams in the league for at least 4 years until Kadri is a UFA; he is going to walk as UFA; we won't have $$$ to re-sign him

 

[gabeliscious]

Ultimately it is going to take something of value. Given leafs rw vs lw depth kapanen makes more sense to move but i would move either for pesce. Right age, position, and contract.

Hyman. Matthews. Marner
Johnsson. Tavares. Nylander
Marleau. Kadri. Brown
Lindholm. Goat. Moore

Rielly. Muzzin
Gardiner. Pesce
Dermott. Hainsey

 

[PromisedLand]

Muzzin at 4 million would be protected ahead of Gardiner AINEC. Is Dermott protected in the expansion draft because he is ELC?

Carolina probably needs to move a D because they will lose one to Seattle as it stands right now.

CRAP forgot about Dermott. No I don't think he is exempt; we would have to protect Dermott

 

[Orfieus]

WTF? Is this tweet legit?

May be Bobby Mac should stop reading my posts
Post-Game Talk: - Complete Domination, Leafs win

I'd be open to Johnsson+Zaitsev+2nd for Pesce;

if Canes fret then you add another 2nd

Johnsson+Zaitsev+2nd+2nd for Pesce

Zaitsev's contract needs to go and FAST!

Protection List for Seattle Expansion

Forward

1. Matthews
2. Marner
3. Tavares
4. Nylander
5. Kadri
6. Kapanen
7. Hyman

Defense

1. Rielly
2. Gardiner/Muzzin (whoever sticks around)
3. Pesce

Goalie
Freddy

We lose Dermott, which would SUCK!

 

[Superstar]

Zaitsev + Gardiner + Johnsson + 2nd for Pesce + Hamilton. Get it done, Dubas!

 

[MapleLeafs77]

Zaitsev + johnsson + 2nd for pesce

Is that fair?

 

[Stephen]

The Leafs should be careful about pursuing a Pesce deal involving any combination of Kapanen, Johnsson, 1st or whatever. The forward depth is going to be really tested, with the loss of possibly 2x firsts, Johnsson and Grundstrom in such a short period of time. We're scraping away cheap talent and also undercutting the picks we need to replenish.

I suppose with a strengthened blueline, you could start thinking about moving Sandin or Liljegren for forwards later, but this needs to all be done carefully.

 

[Marshy]

Zaitsev + johnsson + 2nd for pesce

Is that fair?

They probably ask for Bracco too.

 

[Torontonian]

Does anyone actually have a link or even know where Bobby Mac said this?

 

[PromisedLand]

Zaitsev + johnsson + 2nd for pesce

Is that fair?

I think it is. It is basically Johnsson for Pesce and 2nd to take Zaitsev off our hands (similar cap hit as Pesce)

 

[kb]

Zaitsev + johnsson + 2nd for pesce

Is that fair?

Carolina is trading a RHD because they have 4 (Pesce, Faulk, Hamilton, TVR). They will absolutely have no use for Zaitsev, so no.

 

[MapleLeafs77]

The Leafs should be careful about pursuing a Pesce deal involving any combination of Kapanen, Johnsson, 1st or whatever. The forward depth is going to be really tested, with the loss of possibly 2x firsts, Johnsson and Grundstrom in such a short period of time. We're scraping away cheap talent and also undercutting the picks we need to replenish.

I suppose with a strengthened blueline, you could start thinking about moving Sandin or Liljegren for forwards later, but this needs to all be done carefully.

A forward group of matthews, marner, tavares, nylander, kadri, kapanen should be more than enough

 

[Stephen]

Carolina is trading a RHD because they have 4 (Pesce, Faulk, Hamilton, TVR). They will absolutely have no use for Zaitsev, so no.

Carolina is desperately trying to undo their ill fated Hanifin and Lindholm for Hamilton deal. I'd probably just try to get a great deal out of Waddell or no dice.

 

[realgoodleafs]

This was before they got Muzzin.