He only has one Cup. To only win one cup with that core isn't exactly a huge accomplishment. Also, any idiot could coach a stacked team Canada to victory.
I'm not saying that he was never a good coach though. But the game changes and evolves. And if you don't change and evolve with it, you're gonna have a bad time.
All I can say is that, right now, my impression of him is that he isn't a good coach. I will go so far as to say he's actually a very bad coach.
Ya, we're doing well in the standings. Ya, we just had a 6 game win streak recently. But that's called being results oriented. I'm looking at his coaching objectively and I think it sucks. Ya, we've been winning despite his completely illogical decisions... but my concern is that this isn't going to be good enough to win a cup. Ya, we can beat teams like Carolina while playing like garbage... but that's not going to be good enough when we start going deep into the playoffs.
Also... are we not allowed to dislike Babcock? People rip on Gardiner, Andersen, etc. and that's all considered fair game. Yet when you rip on the coach, you get people saying "you drunk?"
His decisions with respect to the line combos, roster choices, ice time, etc. are borderline insane. Why is Hyman playing as much as Matthews? Why is Hyman playing MORE than Nylander, Kadri, etc. ? Why is Hyman playing in OT and late in the game when we're down a goal? He's stuck in the past with Martin the fighter. Let's guys like Leivo rot on the bench despite putting up good NHL numbers when given the chance. Sorry, but the guy is an idiot. I've seen enough already. There's just too many examples of him making horrible decisions.
Also, let's not forget that Babcock finished dead last in his first year of coaching here. Now, we all gave him a pass because we were tanking. In fact, many of us hoped he was coaching poorly on purpose. But when Babcock came here, all we heard was how he loved to win and hated to lose. So I think if you go back to that first year, I don't think Babcock was trying to tank. He was actually trying to win. That's what happens when Babcock coaches a bad team... they finish dead last. We all thought that his attempt at brilliant coaching was really just him trying to tank... but Babcock wasn't trying to tank. But after we got Matthews and brought up all our good players, not even Babcock's piss poor coaching could keep us out of the playoffs.
In Babcock's first year, he got a pass for putting a 4th liner on the top line. We all thought that was just his tanking strategy. But that was him just being himself and trying to win. Now... this year... we all rejoiced when we signed Marleau because we knew that would bump Hyman out of the top 9. But Babcock goes full ****** and starts putting Brown, Nylander, Marner, etc. on the 4th line instead. When we have depth like Leivo and Kapanen... we still use Martin. When there are plenty of options at center... we still use Moore. When we could use Dermott and get a huge upgrade to our defense, we use Polak instead. I thought this team was basically idiot proof. I thought it would be impossible to ice a bad team with this roster. But Babcock finds a way to ice 4 bad lines despite being overloaded with talent. The most successful line overall last year I think was Komarov - Kadri - Brown... and that was the only line he choose to mess with when we got Marleau. Kadri had 30 goals, Brown had 20... and they did a great job up against top competition. Why does he ruin that line to keep JVR - Bozak - Marner? We all knew that line had defensive problems. Why doesn't Babcock see it? Anyways... rant over. Babcock sucks. Thankfully, our team is so damn good this year that we're still doing really well despite his horrible coaching. I just know that we could be a whole lot better with a non-******ed coach.
Keep up the terrible work bud.
He only has one Cup. To only win one cup with that core isn't exactly a huge accomplishment. Also, any idiot could coach a stacked team Canada to victory.
I'm not saying that he was never a good coach though. But the game changes and evolves. And if you don't change and evolve with it, you're gonna have a bad time.
All I can say is that, right now, my impression of him is that he isn't a good coach. I will go so far as to say he's actually a very bad coach.
Ya, we're doing well in the standings. Ya, we just had a 6 game win streak recently. But that's called being results oriented. I'm looking at his coaching objectively and I think it sucks. Ya, we've been winning despite his completely illogical decisions... but my concern is that this isn't going to be good enough to win a cup. Ya, we can beat teams like Carolina while playing like garbage... but that's not going to be good enough when we start going deep into the playoffs.
Also... are we not allowed to dislike Babcock? People rip on Gardiner, Andersen, etc. and that's all considered fair game. Yet when you rip on the coach, you get people saying "you drunk?"
His decisions with respect to the line combos, roster choices, ice time, etc. are borderline insane. Why is Hyman playing as much as Matthews? Why is Hyman playing MORE than Nylander, Kadri, etc. ? Why is Hyman playing in OT and late in the game when we're down a goal? He's stuck in the past with Martin the fighter. Let's guys like Leivo rot on the bench despite putting up good NHL numbers when given the chance. Sorry, but the guy is an idiot. I've seen enough already. There's just too many examples of him making horrible decisions.
Also, let's not forget that Babcock finished dead last in his first year of coaching here. Now, we all gave him a pass because we were tanking. In fact, many of us hoped he was coaching poorly on purpose. But when Babcock came here, all we heard was how he loved to win and hated to lose. So I think if you go back to that first year, I don't think Babcock was trying to tank. He was actually trying to win. That's what happens when Babcock coaches a bad team... they finish dead last. We all thought that his attempt at brilliant coaching was really just him trying to tank... but Babcock wasn't trying to tank. But after we got Matthews and brought up all our good players, not even Babcock's piss poor coaching could keep us out of the playoffs.
In Babcock's first year, he got a pass for putting a 4th liner on the top line. We all thought that was just his tanking strategy. But that was him just being himself and trying to win. Now... this year... we all rejoiced when we signed Marleau because we knew that would bump Hyman out of the top 9. But Babcock goes full ****** and starts putting Brown, Nylander, Marner, etc. on the 4th line instead. When we have depth like Leivo and Kapanen... we still use Martin. When there are plenty of options at center... we still use Moore. When we could use Dermott and get a huge upgrade to our defense, we use Polak instead. I thought this team was basically idiot proof. I thought it would be impossible to ice a bad team with this roster. But Babcock finds a way to ice 4 bad lines despite being overloaded with talent. The most successful line overall last year I think was Komarov - Kadri - Brown... and that was the only line he choose to mess with when we got Marleau. Kadri had 30 goals, Brown had 20... and they did a great job up against top competition. Why does he ruin that line to keep JVR - Bozak - Marner? We all knew that line had defensive problems. Why doesn't Babcock see it? Anyways... rant over. Babcock sucks. Thankfully, our team is so damn good this year that we're still doing really well despite his horrible coaching. I just know that we could be a whole lot better with a non-******ed coach.
He has one Cup. To one cup with that core is a huge accomplishment. Also, any coach could not coach a stacked team Canada to victory.
I'm not saying that he isnt a perfect coach, but the game changes and evolves. And if you don't change and evolve with it like he has, you're gonna have a great time
All I can say is that, right now, my impression of him is that he isn't a bad coach. I will go so far as to say he's actually a very good coach.
we're doing well in the standings. we just had a 6 game win streak recently. But that's called being results oriented. I'm looking at his coaching objectively and I think its great. we've been winning with his completely smart decisions... This is going to be good enough to win a cup. We can beat teams like Carolina while playing like garbage, every team plays like garbage at some point. ... that's going to be good enough when we start going deep into the playoffs.
Also... are we not allowed to praise the coach People praise Gardiner, Andersen, etc. when they deserve it and that's all considered fair game. Yet when you praise the coach, you get people saying "Babcrap?
His decisions with respect to the line combos, roster choices, ice time, etc. are borderline insane. Why is Hyman playing as much as Matthews? Why is Hyman playing MORE than Nylander, Kadri, etc. ? Why is Hyman playing in OT and late in the game when we're down a goal? He's stuck in the past with Martin the fighter. Let's guys like Leivo rot on the bench despite putting up good NHL numbers when given the chance. Sorry, but the guy is not an idiot. He is not perfect, so maybe you stop expecting perfection from him. If your looking for a coach that is always great, and gives out the best ice time in every game, than you will look for a long time.
Also, let's not forget that Babcock had the team playing the best hockey they have since the Quinn Era in the first season. Now, we all said yeah but he finished last. because we had no talent. In fact, many of us hoped he would instill a good system which he did. When Babcock came here, all we heard was how he loved to win and hated to lose. So I think if you go back to that first year, I don't think Babcock was trying to tank. He was actually trying to win. That's what happens when Babcock coaches a bad team... they play solid hockey. We all thought that his attempt at brilliant coaching was really just him trying to tank... but Babcock wasn't trying to tank. He instilled a culture that we hadn’t had in a long time but after we got Matthews and brought up all our good players, Babcock's coaching got us into the playoffs. We also were in every game against an elite team. Credit to Babcock
In Babcock's first year, he got a pass for putting a 4th liner on the top line. We all thought that was just his tanking strategy, when it wasn’t. He just didn’t have any other talent. Now... this year... we all rejoiced when we signed Marleau because we knew that would bump Hyman out of the top 9. But Babcock starts putting Brown, Nylander, Marner, etc. on the 4th line instead. When we have depth like Leivo and Kapanen... we still use Martin. Blame management for signing Martin in the first place. When there are plenty of options at center... we still use Moore. Like who? Nylander? Guathier{who is not even an NHL player} When we could use Dermott and get a huge upgrade to our defense, we use Polak instead. You do realize Babcock isn’t in charge of call ups right. I thought this team was basically idiot proof but it looks like a few fans still are. I thought it would be impossible to make the playoffs with this roster with this roster. But Babcock finds a way to get us into the playoffs. The most successful line overall last year I think was Komarov - Kadri - Brown... and that was the only line he chose to mess with when we got Marleau. Kadri had 30 goals, Brown had 20... and they did a great job up against top competition. Marleau is a better player than Brown, maybe thats why? Why does he ruin that line to keep JVR - Bozak - Marner? We all knew that line had defensive problems. Why doesn't Babcock see it? Anyways... rant over. Babcock is awesome. Thankfully, our team is so damn good this year that we're still doing really well as a result of his great coaching. I just know that we could be a whole lot worse with any other coach.