News: Leafs cap - Dubas: We can, and we will keep all our 4 top F

[JadedLeaf]

What is the logical link with the post you quoted ?

That is wasn't a bunch of veterans on the Marlies like the poster I was quoting was implying.

 

[Mickey Marner]

It's the other way around.

The league has a maximum number of vets that can dress up for a game.

From ahl.com

"Of the 18 skaters (not counting two goaltenders) that teams may dress for a game, at least 13 must be qualified as “development players.” Of those 13, 12 must have played in 260 or fewer professional games (including AHL, NHL and European elite leagues), and one must have played in 320 or fewer professional games. All calculations for development status are based on regular-season totals as of the start of the season."

From Gurry: "Yeah but would you expect anyone you argue with here to actually know the rules?"

Sorry to mess with your party line...

Thank you for the clarification. 13/18 skaters being development players is even more than I would have assumed. I can now see why teams rotate their AHL players in and out of the lineup as much as they do.

 

[LeafChief]

Calvin De Hann now sucks

First example of Leafs cap crunch

They could only go 1 year

He’d immediately be there best defender

Lightning & Bruins will load up Stamkos & Bergeron lines on Reilly and nullify his stength and keep him in the defensive zone for entire shifts

A puck possession line like Bergeron’s will have those inexperienced and defensively challenged Leafs defenseman in a puddle

Yikes!

 

[LeafFever]

The key to cap success is giving Calvin Dehaan 18 million and have him take Rielly's spot.

 

[DKH]

Yikes!

Glad you are catching up?
Prison ?

 

[Advanced stats]

Yikes!

This was dead... Why man?

 

[Dustin]

Yikes!

Bahahahaha.

Seems like the Leafs will be ok for cap considering they are getting Rielly at such a discount.

 

[Prairie Habs]

Before anyone says it's too early to make any judgements on the leafs play this year, they're only one game away from having played a full playoff run this season, so it's pretty substantial.

 

[ScaredStreit]

What are you doing bickering on a hockey forum when you could be making millions with your crystal ball?

Wanna borrow my crystal ball? It's pretty accurate

 

[FissionFire]

I have no doubt the Leafs can keep all 4 of their top forwards. The question is how badly will they need to sacrifice elsewhere to do it. How badly does the defense get gutted? Does Andersen become trade bait to open cap for defense? It’s not like teams haven’t proven over and over that you can win Cups and make deep playoff runs with budget goalies.

 

[Fantomas]

It's a tough job signing all of your star players to 11 million dollar deals.

 

[holy]

They're gonna need to call that one guy from Fyre Festival to help negotiate Marner's contract.

 

[Ainec]

I'd sign Pettersson 70m x 8 years 560m contract and fill the rest of the roster with league minimum contracts. A guy like Stone would take 950k a year just to be on the same roster call sheet as Elias

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

Well obviously he can... But with them taking up half the cap, the rest of the roster should be interesting to see

 

[The Winter Soldier]

Anyone can do 'We can and we will' when you hand over 4 blank cheques. Why give yourself a pat on the back for this?

 

[Sam Spade]

The ink on the Nylander bonus check won't even be dry on July 1st when he is traded.

I just wonder now who will take him on.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

The ink on the Nylander bonus check won't even be dry on July 1st when he is traded.

I just wonder now who will take him on.

Dubas promised to Nylander he wouldn't trade him though

 

[Sam Spade]

Dubas promised to Nylander he wouldn't trade him though

 

[La Masse]

Anyone can do 'We can and we will' when you hand over 4 blank cheques. Why give yourself a pat on the back for this?

I must have missed the part where Tavares gave himself the max

 

[leaffaninvancouver]

Why was this bread bumped? We didn’t have enough threads about Matthews and Marner?

 

[Jetcetera]

I have no idea why people are acting like we can't fit this roster under the cap next season. We'll likely be unable to add any significant assets, that's true, but we can easily run our current roster for the next two seasons under the cap. We just have to apply all the bonuses to the cap this year. And we'll have to run a young dcore season after this one and hope for the best, but once Marleau and Horton's contracts are over, we're free from worries over the cap. Likely works out to something like this:

16.2 M cap space
-7M Nylander's new contract
+2M Matthews/Marner ELCs coming off the books
-11M Matthews' new contract
-8M Marner's new contract
-Leivo/Carrick/McBackup replaced by equal cost players
+7M letting Hainsey & Gardiner go to UFA
-2M Liljegren and Rosen/UFA replacing Hainsey/Gardiner
+1M Kapanen's ELC gone
-2-2.5M Kapanen's new contract
+2M cap raise
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Comes to 2M over the cap, but with Horton's 5.3M LTIR contract, we're still left with 3.3M in wiggle room.

So there's the math, add 1M each to our 3 young forwards if you're hoping they sign for more, but we're still good cap wise. This would likely be our 2019-2020 roster

[SPOIL]Marleau-Matthews-Nylander
Hyman-Tavares-Marner
Johnsson-Kadri-Kapanen
Grundstrom-Lindholm-Brown

Rielly-Zaitsev
Dermott-Liljegren
A mix of Rosen/Marincin/Holl/Borgman/UFA

So obviously in 2019-2020 our D is going to be weak but we'll be betting on it just needing to get the puck out of the zone to let the forwards do their work, so considering it's filled with PMDs it shouldn't be too harmful.
[/SPOIL]
So, tell me why I'm wrong and why we're destined for cap hell unless we trade Nylander/Marner to your team for peanuts

Doesn't look like a Stanley cup winning roster to me

 

[TIGERCOOL]

Wanna borrow my crystal ball? It's pretty accurate

holy hell... this is pretty sad my dude. You gotta get out more

 

[ScaredStreit]

holy hell... this is pretty sad my dude. You gotta get out more

It's ok to be wrong.

 

[MoreMogilny]

Anyone can do 'We can and we will' when you hand over 4 blank cheques. Why give yourself a pat on the back for this?

Except that’s not what’s happening at all.

How embarrassing, again.

 

[These Are The Days]

Marners camp doesn't look like it is going to budge. Dubas is going to have to make some cap magic happen this summer. "We can, we will" was never in question. It's a matter of it taking about $41 million