News: Leafs cap - Dubas: We can, and we will keep all our 4 top F

[MR4]

I have no idea why people are acting like we can't fit this roster under the cap next season. We'll likely be unable to add any significant assets, that's true, but we can easily run our current roster for the next two seasons under the cap. We just have to apply all the bonuses to the cap this year. And we'll have to run a young dcore season after this one and hope for the best, but once Marleau and Horton's contracts are over, we're free from worries over the cap. Likely works out to something like this:

16.2 M cap space
-7M Nylander's new contract
+2M Matthews/Marner ELCs coming off the books
-11M Matthews' new contract
-8M Marner's new contract
-Leivo/Carrick/McBackup replaced by equal cost players
+7M letting Hainsey & Gardiner go to UFA
-2M Liljegren and Rosen/UFA replacing Hainsey/Gardiner
+1M Kapanen's ELC gone
-2-2.5M Kapanen's new contract
+2M cap raise
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Comes to 2M over the cap, but with Horton's 5.3M LTIR contract, we're still left with 3.3M in wiggle room.

So there's the math, add 1M each to our 3 young forwards if you're hoping they sign for more, but we're still good cap wise. This would likely be our 2019-2020 roster

[SPOIL]Marleau-Matthews-Nylander
Hyman-Tavares-Marner
Johnsson-Kadri-Kapanen
Grundstrom-Lindholm-Brown

Rielly-Zaitsev
Dermott-Liljegren
A mix of Rosen/Marincin/Holl/Borgman/UFA

So obviously in 2019-2020 our D is going to be weak but we'll be betting on it just needing to get the puck out of the zone to let the forwards do their work, so considering it's filled with PMDs it shouldn't be too harmful.
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So, tell me why I'm wrong and why we're destined for cap hell unless we trade Nylander/Marner to your team for peanuts

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[K Fleur]

Thanks for that dissertation, I was really worried.

 

[MR4]

Thanks for that dissertation, I was really worried.

No problem, HF has been really anxious and worried for us so I thought I'd clear it up.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

No one said you are in cap hell

Just that your window to win with this group of forwards will be very short

 

[shello]

I don't think this needed to be on the main boards but anyways. I don't think people are saying they can't afford the 3 kids it's more can they afford anything else after that

 

[Its a Trap]

Wrong forum, chief.

 

[HandshakeLineRespect]

Any time some hot take artist throws out the lazy argument that the leafs will be in cap hell a link to this thread should be pasted in the reply.

 

[LeafFever]

The funny thing is, Friedman reported yesterday Lou was going to offer sheet a young Leaf player. Today Lou takes 2.5 million off their hands

 

[LeafFever]

It's telling we go from John Tavares won't ever play for the Leafs to we can't afford anyone.

 

[RockTheRedDC]

Please move all the threads from Leafs board to the main.

Everybody on the planet should be interested in what is fff..ing, eating or drinking these Gods...matthews, jt and co

 

[crazy8888]

No one said you are in cap hell

Just that your window to win with this group of forwards will be very short

. Window shwindown. Caps window was supposed to be the last two years. See what happened. Just have to make the playoffs after that anything can happen

 

[Peiskos]

Leafs will be a powerhouse for the foreseeable future, just being able to run 2 elite franchise centres down the middle in Tavares-Matthews alone guarantees this in the same way it's guaranteed it for the Penguins with Crosby-Malkin. Interchange players on their wings its still going to be a great team. This is the beauty in having such incredible centre depth in this league.

I agree the Leafs will be able to maintain this forward core (Matthews, Tavares, Marner, Nylander) apparently Tavares asked GM Dubas what his plans were to keep the core together during their 2 hour meeting and it was a condition of his because he wants to play with a strong supporting cast..something he's never had in NYI. So I trust the management.

People just like to stir up conspiracies and fake problems because lets face it, tons of people are salty that the Leafs signed a star UFA, especially after years of everyone telling us no big name stars would ever sign here. Its the same way they've stirred up the fake story of there being a rift between Babcock and Matthews because he visited him in Arizona. When in actuality he also visited Andersen in Denmark and that's just how he is, a coach that wants to maintain relationships with his players on and off the ice.. its the same reason he's the only coach that goes up the stands to talk to the parents of players we draft on the draft floor.

 

[sharks9]

Obviously they can fit what they ha e under the cap, but the problem everyone is saying is they can’t improve their defence with the amount they’re spending on forwards which is true. So they’ll likely have to trade Nylander if they want to upgrade their defence in any way

 

[LeafFever]

What a time to be a Leaf fan.

 

[LeafFever]

Obviously they can fit what they ha e under the cap, but the problem everyone is saying is they can’t improve their defence with the amount they’re spending on forwards which is true. So they’ll likely have to trade Nylander if they want to upgrade their defence in any way

They can't make a trade? Tavares signing allows them to do that.

 

[HandshakeLineRespect]

No one said you are in cap hell

Just that your window to win with this group of forwards will be very short

Okayyyyy there buddy.

 

[sharks9]

They can't make a trade? Tavares signing allows them to do that.

They can’t make a trade for anyone with a significant cap hit without also trading back a significant salary like Nylander’s or maybe Kadri

 

[LeafFever]

They can’t make a trade for anyone with a significant cap hit without also trading back a significant salary like Nylander’s or maybe Kadri

I am not a believer a Karlssn is the way to go. There are always solid top 4 guys you can add.

 

[sharks9]

I am not a believer a Karlssn is the way to go. There are always solid top 4 guys you can add.

Who? And what’s their salary?

 

[MR4]

No one said you are in cap hell

Just that your window to win with this group of forwards will be very short

Itll obviously stop us from adding any big ticket UFAs for the foreseeable future but if we copy Pittsburgh's model of surrounding our elite talent with cheap undervalued UFAs/ELCs, I don't think it'll be that big of a problem. And adding an extra 2M to the cap each year will help the cap situation more than you think IMO.

I don't think this needed to be on the main boards but anyways. I don't think people are saying they can't afford the 3 kids it's more can they afford anything else after that

Yeah we obviously won't be in the Karlsson running next year, but I think Dubas is aiming to have the $ spent on elite players that can raise the play of their teammates, while running ELCs as their wingers/supporting cast of dmen.

Really, if we flip Zaitsev, that's another 4M + the 3M in cap that we have for a good RD

 

[LeafFever]

We have kid dynamite, Kyle Dubas. we are fine.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

. Window shwindown. Caps window was supposed to be the last two years. See what happened. Just have to make the playoffs after that anything can happen

I said

"With this group of forwards"

 

[Peiskos]

Obviously they can fit what they ha e under the cap, but the problem everyone is saying is they can’t improve their defence with the amount they’re spending on forwards which is true. So they’ll likely have to trade Nylander if they want to upgrade their defence in any way

Marleau's 6.2 million comes off the books after this coming season along with Horton's 5.3 million. Rielly is locked up on a great team friendly 5 million until 2022-23 as is Zaitsev at 4.5 until 2024. Hainsey's 3 million is off the books after this coming season too.

We just traded Martin today too freeing up another 2.5 million.

We currently have 16.1 million in space.

 

[MR4]

Marleau's 6.2 million comes off the books after this coming season.

And Horton's contract which makes using that 5.3M more attractive than using it as LTIR

 

[Filthy Dangles]