Leafs 27th in PP % since Nov 30

Discussion in 'Toronto Maple Leafs' started by A1LeafNation, Feb 9, 2019.

  1. Blanche Blanche

    Blanche Blanche Torontoooooo

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2017
    Messages:
    1,710
    Likes Received:
    1,026
    Trophy Points:
    84
    Location:
    Toronto
    Best case scenario :
    The players are just PP slumping and it will be better when playoffs are near. Slowly they tweak it a bit and we have a scoring deadly pp again.

    Worst case scenario : Hiller wasn't actually good and the lineup was just good at scoring by luck years ago. Until that is, you have a top team in the 2018 Leafs now, and EVERYONE and EVERY team is scouting the way we play.

    We are not sneaking up to people anymore, this isnt 2016. People arent looking at us as a MAYBE club like 2017. This year every team gets up and splashes cold water on their balls and plays heavy metal as they lace up Vs us.

    I agree though, 5 to 10 games. Major changes and if it still fails. Bye bye. For the sake of a PP in the playoffs.
     
  2. Rielly4

    Rielly4 Registered User

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2012
    Messages:
    2,804
    Likes Received:
    97
    Trophy Points:
    71
    The first unit was very good last night. Anyone who thinks otherwise didnt watch the game.
     
    mavis and Hockey Crazy like this.
  3. Burnie97

    Burnie97 Registered User

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2015
    Messages:
    2,296
    Likes Received:
    1,127
    Trophy Points:
    94
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Canada
    Good in terms of creating chances...absoloutely . Terrible at finishing.

    Leafs would be much closer to Tampa if our powerplay wasn't doing as poorly as it has since November.
     
  4. Warden of the North

    Warden of the North The Matthews Show

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2006
    Messages:
    39,431
    Likes Received:
    8,441
    Trophy Points:
    186
    Location:
    Muskoka
    Im surprised there are teams worse then us in that time period almost as much as im shocked ours is this bad given the talent on ours.

    Last night it was unlucky not to score at least one, though.

    Anyways, our is far too stagnant. Go back to the traditional 1-2-2 setup as opposed to the 1-3-1. Ive never liked just one guy on the blueline.
     
    SAMCRO44 and dsred like this.
  5. ToneDog

    ToneDog Voice of Reason

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2017
    Messages:
    6,923
    Likes Received:
    2,661
    Trophy Points:
    111
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Richmond Hill, ON
    JT is great to the side of the net but we need a big strong forward to distract the goalie. If we can grab a Simmons (Savard rumoured a 2nd, a 3rd and Brown last night but I can't believe another team won't offer a 1st) stick him in front of the net. Replace Kadri with JT. Kadri can help the 2nd unit which is weak.
     
  6. TOGuy14

    TOGuy14 Registered User

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2010
    Messages:
    10,416
    Likes Received:
    1,555
    Trophy Points:
    139
    Location:
    Toronto
    I can accept a game to game fluctuation on success, it happens.

    But over the past 2.5 months we are essentially dead last in the league at converting. With our level of firepower that is completely unacceptable.
     
  7. HamiltonNHL

    HamiltonNHL Window open for 5 years

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2012
    Messages:
    12,335
    Likes Received:
    3,343
    Trophy Points:
    157
    Location:
    Hockeyville
    We play down to other teams. We even play down when we have the man advantage. No team chemistry. RFAs getting overpaid to make sure Kappy and Johnsson get less. 1 left winger, zero top4 RHD. The math doesn't add up.

    A team who needs to outscore can't score on the man advantage in the regular season ? We have a 10% chance of taking 4 against Tampa.
     
    ANDI P IS CUTE likes this.
  8. A1LeafNation

    A1LeafNation Leafs living rent free in the Bruins heads!

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2010
    Messages:
    16,218
    Likes Received:
    4,775
    Trophy Points:
    156
    Time to:

    1. Put those who are capable of chaos on one unit: Dermott Nylander Ennis Johnsson Kapanen
    Or
    2. Split talent evenly

    in order to drive competition.
     
    Last edited: Feb 11, 2019
  9. Gary Nylund

    Gary Nylund Registered User

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2013
    Messages:
    17,108
    Likes Received:
    5,296
    Trophy Points:
    156
    The PP is abysmal, just amazing that we're as high as we are in the standings despite how bad it's been. I heard the numbers on the radio this morning, it was over 30% in October, lower in November and again in December, can't remember the exact numbers. Then it was something like 6% in January and so far, running at about 3% in February. At this rate we'll be giving up more goals then we score on the PP by the time the playoffs start.

    This is an embarrassment and should be 100% the first priority of the coaching staff. If this doesn't get fixed, it's hard to see us winning a round in the playoffs no matter who we play.
     
    ANDI P IS CUTE, dsred and SAMCRO44 like this.
  10. Daisy Jane

    Daisy Jane everything is gonna be okay!

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2009
    Messages:
    68,597
    Likes Received:
    6,710
    Trophy Points:
    156
    Gender:
    Female
    Fire Jim Hiller
    Hire Quennville.
     
  11. FlareKnight

    FlareKnight Registered User

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2006
    Messages:
    19,347
    Likes Received:
    1,285
    Trophy Points:
    170
    Location:
    Alberta
    This does need to be their main focus. There were some decent signs last game with some of the powerplays. But that still isn't actually scoring on most...or really any of their chances. The players and the coaches all need to figure it out before it costs them more points. I just hope they can solve it in the games remaining in the season.
     
  12. SHANNYPLAN

    SHANNYPLAN Registered User

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2016
    Messages:
    3,400
    Likes Received:
    1,402
    Trophy Points:
    94
    "Our Powerplay is our toughness" - Mike Babcock - Michael Scott
     
  13. Hockey Crazy

    Hockey Crazy Registered User

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2008
    Messages:
    1,737
    Likes Received:
    733
    Trophy Points:
    139
    Lol too many cooks in the kitchen
     
  14. LeafsNation75

    LeafsNation75 Registered User

    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2010
    Messages:
    22,725
    Likes Received:
    3,700
    Trophy Points:
    156
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Toronto, Ontario
    Did their power play struggles against the Rangers remind anyone else when they went 0-6 against Tampa Bay back on December 13, 2018?

    It's also weird how in that game they had 49 shots on goal against Tampa Bay and yesterday they get 56 shots on goal against the Rangers.
     
  15. Throw More Waffles

    Throw More Waffles Registered User

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2015
    Messages:
    5,990
    Likes Received:
    2,930
    Trophy Points:
    111
    It’s not that they were “very good”. They didn’t even score.

    That’s just what a power play is SUPPOSED to look like. Always.

    Instead of looking like complete and utter crap (like the past month or two), it looked “normal” last night.
     
  16. janesy12

    janesy12 Leafs Nation

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2010
    Messages:
    1,242
    Likes Received:
    279
    Trophy Points:
    94
    Location:
    Newfoundland
    Since October:
    Rielly to Marner, slap pass to Kadri for a tip.
    Rielly to Marner, pass across the slot to Matthews, Matthews toe drag wrister.

    Teams have adjusted. So, they switched to this:

    Rielly to Matthews, Matthews pass to Kadri in the slow for a weak one timer.
    Rielly to Marner, pass down low to Tavares, cross seam to Matthews.

    This was their big adjustment. It took the Rangers less than 4 minutes to figure out the changes, and make their own PK adjustments accordingly.

    You can blame the players if you want, but at the end of the day they're told to execute those plays specifically. That's what they work on, that's what they're expected to do as told by the coaching staff.
     
    666 likes this.
  17. ACC1224

    ACC1224 Eye test expert

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2002
    Messages:
    49,071
    Likes Received:
    5,042
    Trophy Points:
    231
    lol, the optics of that would be terrible.
    Babcock would essentially become a dead man walking.
     
    dsred likes this.
  18. Anthrax442

    Anthrax442 Registered User

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2008
    Messages:
    10,748
    Likes Received:
    1,559
    Trophy Points:
    169
    Location:
    Toronto
    Home Page:
    We are okay with that
     
    dsred and 666 like this.
  19. ACC1224

    ACC1224 Eye test expert

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2002
    Messages:
    49,071
    Likes Received:
    5,042
    Trophy Points:
    231
    We don't have a say in that.
     
  20. Anthrax442

    Anthrax442 Registered User

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2008
    Messages:
    10,748
    Likes Received:
    1,559
    Trophy Points:
    169
    Location:
    Toronto
    Home Page:
    So if our 5 on 5 is top notch, but PP sucks, doesn't it make more sense to leave the lines on the PP the way they are on 5on5?
     
  21. RLF

    RLF Registered User

    Joined:
    May 5, 2014
    Messages:
    3,229
    Likes Received:
    848
    Trophy Points:
    84
    PP has been looking much better lately. They are starting to use Marner less to carry and set things up and using everyone else more. If they keep giving the other teams different looks consistently, I am confident the PP will break through very shortly. If they go back to Marner always bringing it into the zone and always through him at set up, it will fail as it is too predictable.
     
  22. Egghead1999

    Egghead1999 Registered User

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2007
    Messages:
    1,256
    Likes Received:
    169
    Trophy Points:
    111
    That is the problem; the coaching staff could not do a simple in-game adjustment. I don't mind that they had a game plan and they stuck to it. Just had a plan to counter opponent's PK adjustments. I will say that is lazy coaching
     
  23. mavis

    mavis Registered User

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2011
    Messages:
    4,067
    Likes Received:
    1,272
    Trophy Points:
    109
    If the PP can created chances then the scoring will come. On this team with this talent so long as you’re able to create space and get chances, the puck will go in. Not always at the right time, but that happens to all teams
     
  24. Burnie97

    Burnie97 Registered User

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2015
    Messages:
    2,296
    Likes Received:
    1,127
    Trophy Points:
    94
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Canada
    Yeah I agree... it'll come back, but it's been hurting for a while.

    Hopefully going into the playoffs it'll get on fire.
     
    mavis likes this.
  25. Menzinger

    Menzinger Registered User

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2014
    Messages:
    24,501
    Likes Received:
    5,871
    Trophy Points:
    141
    Occupation:
    Professional Student
    Location:
    St. Paul, MN
    Not making any significant changes and expecting different results is stupid. This is 100% a coaching problem.

    Babcock needs to step up and order his guys to adapt and do something major.
     
    dsred likes this.

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice
monitoring_string = "358c248ada348a047a4b9bb27a146148"