Post-Game Talk: Leader of Men (And Panthers) Visit The World Champions

[Sam Spade]

After the home game on Monday against LA, the Caps go on the road to the following:
Blue Jackets
Sharks
Ducks
Kings
Leafs
Sabres

Boys better get some rest and buckle their chin straps tight these next 7 games.

Caps against teams in a playoff spot or within two points of a playoff spot:
15 w and 18 L. Uh, oh.

 

[kicksavedave]

Caps against teams in a playoff spot or within two points of a playoff spot:
15 w and 18 L. Uh, oh.

The 7 game losing steak makes that look bad, 5 of those 7 were playoff teams.

 

[SherVaughn30]

Pens are missing Malkin, Schultz and Murray what's the Caps excuse?

Were missing Trotz!

 

[maacoshark]

Yeah, I was kidding. Wasn't pretty but Caps got a point, that is the name of the game in today's NHL. Just keeping racking up points. Down by two in the third and came back, another good thing.

Also, getting the third line going is HUGE, and DJ Oos looked decent in his return.

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Here is your infamous corsi stats. Get real already.

 

[hockeykicker]

Fwiw, vegas had their director of player personnel among their scouts attending the game

 

[ovikovy817]

You won't find a better 3rd line winger to play with 20 and 10 than Burky. The chemistry is there, it will be hard to find someone else that will learn to play on that line in 20 games.

 

[txpd]

Didn't see the game. Looks like a team regretion on one hand and Burakovsky no longer a trade chip

 

[VaCaps Fan]

Shit happens some games...

 

[AlexBrovechkin8]

Felt pretty good about the game to be honest, outside of Oshie, who looked like he was drunk. The Panthers scored some pretty fluky goals and had most of the puck luck - it happens. The fancy stats crew will talk about it being a defensive fart noise and that they gave up too many high danger scoring chances against but most of those good chances against seemed to come during the final 30 minutes when the Caps were pressing. Guys were leaving the zone early and defensemen were pinching looking to get points on the board which left them vulnerable to counterattacks. Luckily Holtby was Holtby and he gave them a chance to get the game tied, which they did, and I think they win if Connolly doesn't take that dumb penalty heading into OT. A win against LA and they're 4-1-1 since the break and will take some momentum onto a road trip that they'll need to get points from.

 

[maacoshark]

Yeah, I was kidding. Wasn't pretty but Caps got a point, that is the name of the game in today's NHL. Just keeping racking up points. Down by two in the third and came back, another good thing.

Also, getting the third line going is HUGE, and DJ Oos looked decent in his return.

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If you want to get a better idea about corsi you should post the players zone starts. It makes a huge difference in corsi percentages.
It is the main reason Beagle was one of the worst in the league in corsi. Its even lower this year in Vancouver but 80% of his zone starts are in the defensive zone.
A player like Djoos would have an inflated corsi because he is sheltered. His corsi is almost identical to Siegenthalers this year but he has way more offensive zone starts than Siegenthaler. Surprisingly Siegenthaler actually has more defensive zone starts than offensive. Defensive zone starts for Djoos are only around 42%.
This is one of the reasons corsi is such an unreliable stat. There are other factors as well. It doesnt take into account what a players role is on that team. It doesnt take into account who his linemates are which us important since corsi is actually a 5 on 5 stat. It also doesnt take into account who you are matched up against. So if you are a defensive zone specialist like a guy like Beagle Hus corsi will obviously be lower, not only because of zone starts but because he is matched up against top players. There is so much more to the corsi stat that you can't see. All you see is the percentage. The stats is incomplete. It is the most inaccurate stat in hockey and it doesnt even actually measure what they say it does.
And you live and die by that stat.

 

[RandyHolt]

I turned on the game at the moment Djoos took an elbowing penalty.... and I thought 'hey there is hope for the kid to be more than a good puck mover' and round out his game some. And then I heard the panther injured himself.

I was as bearish as anyone on him based solely on his mega slight build but have to eat crow as he polishes up his ring. I am still baffled why teams didn't slow dump him through the boards in the playoffs. I guess targeting players like that is officially frowned upon now.

The log jam at D sure seems to point to Bowey being the odd man out. Maybe we will just shelf him and roll 8 D the rest of the year.

If the plan remains to sell on Bura no matter what I want to see him get a bit more TOI/ PP2 responsibilities and pray for a hat trick / sell high opportunity. It would be ironic to sell a guy off our hottest line heh.

 

[Sam Spade]

All you see is the percentage. The stats is incomplete. It is the most inaccurate stat in hockey and it doesnt even actually measure what they say it does.
And you live and die by that stat.

It measured it perfectly last night, even if you go over his zone starts.

Florida Panthers @ Washington Capitals, 2019-02-09

 

[EYEuhFRAYtee]

Loving Bura upping his trade value, keep going!

 

[Midnight Judges]

This team controls its destiny. They are waiting for game 83.

 

[kicksavedave]

If you want to get a better idea about corsi you should post the players zone starts. It makes a huge difference in corsi percentages.
It is the main reason Beagle was one of the worst in the league in corsi. Its even lower this year in Vancouver but 80% of his zone starts are in the defensive zone.
A player like Djoos would have an inflated corsi because he is sheltered. His corsi is almost identical to Siegenthalers this year but he has way more offensive zone starts than Siegenthaler. Surprisingly Siegenthaler actually has more defensive zone starts than offensive. Defensive zone starts for Djoos are only around 42%.
This is one of the reasons corsi is such an unreliable stat. There are other factors as well. It doesnt take into account what a players role is on that team. It doesnt take into account who his linemates are which us important since corsi is actually a 5 on 5 stat. It also doesnt take into account who you are matched up against. So if you are a defensive zone specialist like a guy like Beagle Hus corsi will obviously be lower, not only because of zone starts but because he is matched up against top players. There is so much more to the corsi stat that you can't see. All you see is the percentage. The stats is incomplete. It is the most inaccurate stat in hockey and it doesnt even actually measure what they say it does.
And you live and die by that stat.

Serious question for you to ponder, why would one 5/6 man have so many more defensive zone starts than his replacement 5/6 dman does? Hint, it's not entirely about when the coach sends him out there for the first faceoff of his shift.

It has a lot to do with one of them having more ability to get the puck out, into the other teams zone and get faceoffs there. This should be obvious to people who have watched Siegs/Bowey vs Djoos play. Or the same point in the flip side, two of those guys struggle to clear the zone as efficiently a one of those guys. So they take more shots against which Holtby stops which leads them to more faceoffs in their zone.

Djoos strength is getting the puck out of his zone quickly and efficiently to move the team to offense. He does that far far better than Siegs or Bowey, despite not being as physical as they are. He works very well with Orpik that way unlike both Siegs and Bowey.

That fact which seemingly escapes you is a big part of why Djoos has many more shots attempted for his team vs against his team when he's on the ice. He's clearing the zone and setting up the offense far better than his peers.

 

[kicksavedave]

This team controls its destiny. They are waiting for game 83.

Just like last year, this is one long preseason.

 

[StrikingDistance]

Reffing sucked more than the FL Bobcats and the 20 minute champs.

That's all I got.

 

[maacoshark]

Serious question for you to ponder, why would one 5/6 man have so many more defensive zone starts than his replacement 5/6 dman does? Hint, it's not entirely about when the coach sends him out there for the first faceoff of his shift.

It has a lot to do with one of them having more ability to get the puck out, into the other teams zone and get faceoffs there. This should be obvious to people who have watched Siegs/Bowey vs Djoos play. Or the same point in the flip side, two of those guys struggle to clear the zone as efficiently a one of those guys. So they take more shots against which Holtby stops which leads them to more faceoffs in their zone.

Djoos strength is getting the puck out of his zone quickly and efficiently to move the team to offense. He does that far far better than Siegs or Bowey, despite not being as physical as they are. He works very well with Orpik that way unlike both Siegs and Bowey.

That fact which seemingly escapes you is a big part of why Djoos has many more shots attempted for his team vs against his team when he's on the ice. He's clearing the zone and setting up the offense far better than his peers.

Do you not follow what goes on throughout a game. If all of our dmen Djoos is by far the most sheltered on the team. Even more than the other young dmen Siegenthaler and Bowey. Djoos gets more offensive zones starts and gets the easier matchups. He also doesnt kill penalties. He gets the easiest minutes of all our dmen. Not sure why you can't figure that out. Its right there to see.

 

[43sfriends]

Do you not follow what goes on throughout a game. If all of our dmen Djoos is by far the most sheltered on the team. Even more than the other young dmen Siegenthaler and Bowey. Djoos gets more offensive zones starts and gets the easier matchups. He also doesnt kill penalties. He gets the easiest minutes of all our dmen. Not sure why you can't figure that out. Its right there to see.

You don't even read what people say before you go on ranting, do you?

 

[Raikkonen]

I like how ppl still talk with invisible man. Texts are mostly the same. Lots of rhetorical questions lately