LD Bowen Byram - Vancouver Giants, WHL (2019, 4th, COL) Part 2
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Andrei79
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Jason MacIsaac
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Not trolling, I was heavily disappointed with Ty Smith's start to the season hovering just under a PPG. Even still I wish he had a larger jump in PPG from last season. If you are happy with Byram's stats, good for you?
Jason MacIsaac
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I guess you found Provorov's and Sergachev's +1 season a disappointment too, eh? Both definitely should've been selected in the 20-31 range based off that D+1 season.
I’ve always compared Byram to another fourth overall pick in Pietrangelo. 40ish points with strong defence is what I expect from Byram, especially with Makar in town to take the prime offensive minutes away.
His offence this year has been exactly what I expected, he’s not an offensive dynamo he’s much more of a two way guy. He’s also clearly a second half of the year player after the last two seasons.
His offence this year has been exactly what I expected, he’s not an offensive dynamo he’s much more of a two way guy. He’s also clearly a second half of the year player after the last two seasons.
Jason MacIsaac
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Byram is the real deal, his recent production is not a surprise. I think there is a near obsession on this site that player development goes at a pace that is robotically consistent when in reality teenagers have ups and downs. I think more people should remember that.
I am a Royals fan, we will play against Byram and the Giants in round 1.
Not looking forward to that fact.
I am a Royals fan, we will play against Byram and the Giants in round 1.
Not looking forward to that fact.
Jason MacIsaac
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Smith has his own challenges, getting the puck off NHL forwards down low. Byram shouldn't play in the NHL next year IMO, this has Jack Johnson written all over it.Unless he wins CHL dman of the year in his d+1 season then smith>byram
Well thanks for explaining how pointless this discussion is, since apparently the only thing that matters is point production for defenseman.
You mean the WJC where he was Canada's #1Dman as an 18 year old over a full roster of 19 year old Dmen?
Like I said, your attempts at trolling are pretty flat here.
Jason MacIsaac
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Jason MacIsaac
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He played #1 minutes, he was not Canada's #1 defensmen. He was a disaster in his own end and showed tunnel vision with the puck. His skillset is tremendous but his IQ is clearly lacking.
Jason MacIsaac
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A true response. I assumed Byram fans would forget that he wasn't great at the WJC, I just didn't think they would forget this soon. None of the Canada defensmen played particularly well, this was a team carried by the forwards.
Jason MacIsaac
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Common, 2 points in 7 games and even +- on Canada. What makes you think he played well? Drysdale and Addison at the very least were better than him. Smith and Bernard-Docker were probably better than him. I had him slightly ahead of Bahl but miles ahead of McIssac.
Weast
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Drysdale and Addison were indeed better than Byram, but Byram was the third best defenceman on the team without a doubt IMO. Plus he played the most minutes and played a shutdown role, which he isn't suited for. If I recall correctly he had fewer offensive zones starts than most of the other guys.
I expect a lot more next years tourney, but given the role he was in, he was very good this year.
Here I go falling for the troll and responding again...
Dryadale was the 7th Dman. He looked good in his very limited role but to say he was better than anyone aside from MacIsaac who was just awful, isnt accurate at all. If he had the minutes of the other guys he definitely would have struggled with them.
You're using points and +/- for your argument. Right away it's a piss poor argument.
Byram was used as the top PKer, he wa the one the coaching staff relied on a tonne defensively when the games mattered and as the tournament went on he got better and better and played more and more minutes.
Just because he didn't get a huge production boost by playing Top PP with Lafrenniere and Hayton like Addison did doesnt mean Addison was better
I was critical of him in the 1st Russian game in the round Robin. But after that game onward he was absolutely Canada's best Dman. Simple as that really.
Ararana
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Jason MacIsaac is either a troll or one of the biggest morons on these boards.
Thought he got it out of his system after spending the entire WJCs trashing Canada's best defenseman.
Jason MacIsaac
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Name calling, thanks brah. You're right, it has to be only those two opinions. It couldn't be that Byram certainly wasn't Canada's best defensmen. The only argument anyone has is that Hunter used him a lot. I guess old school dinosaurs like Hunter haven't used Jack Johnson a lot at the NHL level. Either way, it's unfortunate that Iceberg Sports weren't tracking stats like they were in 2018-19 because it would be evidently clear he was no good.
tigervixxxen
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Byram was only on the ice for 2 goals against the entire time at the WJC and that includes shorthanded.
