LD Bowen Byram - Vancouver Giants, WHL (2019, 4th, COL) Part 2

[Dominance]

What's changed for him recently that's spurned on this production?

Puck luck and being more assertive with and without the puck.

 

[Avaholic29]

Goal and two assists tonight.

The kid is on a burner.

 

[Artorius Horus T]

21 points (5 game goal streak) in his last 10 games.... good streak, i guess...lol
- credit to him when the credit is due, good job Bowen.

 

[Tralfamadore]

Pretty safe to say Colorado completely knocked it out of the park with their 1st round picks last year. Byram and Newhook are both on absolute tears right now.

 

[JoemAvs]

He is only 1 2 point game away from not being a bust on here.
Hope he can deliver on that soon...

 

[avsfan9]

Great player. Imagine him and Makar on our top line in a year or two.

 

[TheRarestDangles]

21 points (5 game goal streak) in his last 10 games.... good streak, i guess...lol
- credit to him when the credit is due, good job Bowen.

I'm sure he can die happy now knowing he has your approval.

 

[a mangy Meowth]

21 points (5 game goal streak) in his last 10 games.... good streak, i guess...lol
- credit to him when the credit is due, good job Bowen.

This must just be eating you up inside

 

[Avs9296]

I think the disappointment of being cut by the Avs during pre-season hit him pretty hard and he sulked a bit going back to the Giants. Then he got himself a bit of a reset mentally with the WJC where he put on a good showing. Since coming back from there he's upped his game in a big way.

 

[Mac Attack]

I think the disappointment of being cut by the Avs during pre-season hit him pretty hard and he sulked a bit going back to the Giants. Then he got himself a bit of a reset mentally with the WJC where he put on a good showing. Since coming back from there he's upped his game in a big way.

Lol i think you just completely made up a mental evaluation out of thin air.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

Lol i think you just completely made up a mental evaluation out of thin air.

This exact mental evaluation has been pointed out by several WHL scouts and media members. Apparently it is true and he struggled a lot early on by being very down on himself. He clearly elevates his game on confidence and he was definitely lacking that in October.

 

[Mac Attack]

This exact mental evaluation has been pointed out by several WHL scouts and media members. Apparently it is true and he struggled a lot early on by being very down on himself. He clearly elevates his game on confidence and he was definitely lacking that in October.

Fair enough

 

[Avaholic29]

I wonder if this recent streak will slow down trade proposals for 29+ year old 60 pt players...

Giants play again tonight, stay tuned.

 

[landy92mack29]

This exact mental evaluation has been pointed out by several WHL scouts and media members. Apparently it is true and he struggled a lot early on by being very down on himself. He clearly elevates his game on confidence and he was definitely lacking that in October.

It was a mix of 3 things. Said down confidence, Giants as a whole not playing good and he had 2 minor injuries before wjcs he was playing through.

 

[Avs9296]

Lol i think you just completely made up a mental evaluation out of thin air.

I guess you missed the part where I said, I THINK this is what happened.

Thanks for coming out though. Nice contribution you made to this thread.

 

[Avaholic29]

Powerplay assist so far.

 

[Ararana]

45 games in and Byram has caught up to his point production from last year.

	GP	Goals	Assists	Points
18-19	45	16	27	43
19-20	45	10	33	43

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Due to the WCJs Byram has 11 less games remaining on his schedule than he did last year at this point. So I seriously doubt he matches the remaining 10 goals 11 assists down the stretch to match his regular season totals last season. But he does have 12 games left, maybe if he keep rolling like this he can make it close.

 

[landy92mack29]

He's at 44 games

 

[tigervixxxen]

It was a mix of 3 things. Said down confidence, Giants as a whole not playing good and he had 2 minor injuries before wjcs he was playing through.

Yeah, the whole team struggled to meet expectations after the WHL finals appearance and then with the turnover going into the year. Their power play was awful and dragged team scoring down too. They made a lot of trades to bring some new faces in and finally got the right mix, when Byram returned from the WJC he was what was needed to bring it all together. So it is part him playing relaxed and confident and also the team responding. I also feel that the WJC was a lot of pressure on him too and once that was over he could focus on just one thing.

His game on Friday against Calgary was one of the best games I’ve seen him play. Special players an elevate at critical moments and he did that.

 

[Gargyn]

I went on YouTube to watch his hilights and came away noticing something. Watch his goals, they’re all wrist shots, all similar him doing toe drags and skating circles around whl competition. He’s an incredible skater, just not sure how he scores his goals will translate to scoring lots in the bigs. I’m not saying he’s bad at all, he’s very skilled. I just don’t imagine he will be scoring as much with better talent rushing him. I see a lot of assists, good defence and a good guy on the half wall on the power play. He doesn’t have a great slap shot to man the top of the power play. I’ve seen him in Kelowna a couple times and didn’t really notice him offensively either which led me to watching hilights. I know it’s not a perfect measuring stick but hope someone could come chime in if I’m completely off my rocker. Thanks.

 

[Dominance]

I went on YouTube to watch his hilights and came away noticing something. Watch his goals, they’re all wrist shots, all similar him doing toe drags and skating circles around whl competition. He’s an incredible skater, just not sure how he scores his goals will translate to scoring lots in the bigs. I’m not saying he’s bad at all, he’s very skilled. I just don’t imagine he will be scoring as much with better talent rushing him. I see a lot of assists, good defence and a good guy on the half wall on the power play. He doesn’t have a great slap shot to man the top of the power play. I’ve seen him in Kelowna a couple times and didn’t really notice him offensively either which led me to watching hilights. I know it’s not a perfect measuring stick but hope someone could come chime in if I’m completely off my rocker. Thanks.

No one’s expecting him to score 20 goals or 70 points in the NHL. He was drafted to be a mobile top pair guy who can defend this new wave of burners, move the puck quickly and accurately, and have above-average dynamism to open things up in transition and the offensive zone. And that’s exactly what he’s tracking to become.

Basically, your assessment isn’t off, it just isn’t demonstrative of any problem.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

I went on YouTube to watch his hilights and came away noticing something. Watch his goals, they’re all wrist shots, all similar him doing toe drags and skating circles around whl competition. He’s an incredible skater, just not sure how he scores his goals will translate to scoring lots in the bigs. I’m not saying he’s bad at all, he’s very skilled. I just don’t imagine he will be scoring as much with better talent rushing him. I see a lot of assists, good defence and a good guy on the half wall on the power play. He doesn’t have a great slap shot to man the top of the power play. I’ve seen him in Kelowna a couple times and didn’t really notice him offensively either which led me to watching hilights. I know it’s not a perfect measuring stick but hope someone could come chime in if I’m completely off my rocker. Thanks.

I notice it too and I’m an Avs fan and a huge Byram fanboy. The way he scores goals is very similar to how Juolevi scores goals in London. Fortunately Byram does it better (and everything else better too) but his goal scoring doesn’t exactly come from his ability to get in those areas, it comes from his willingness to go to those areas because of his confidence.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

In Todays NHL a big booming Slapshot means almost nothing and adds no value really.


If anything I think his ability to score with a wrister is a good sign. Especially the ability to release it quickly and change the angle with quick stick work like he does on the toe drag.

Look at the way Cale Makar is scoring all his goals in the NHL. I'm not sure he's scored even one goal this year off a big booming slapshot. It's all about worst shots and getting them through traffic on net.

 

[Avs44]

I went on YouTube to watch his hilights and came away noticing something. Watch his goals, they’re all wrist shots, all similar him doing toe drags and skating circles around whl competition. He’s an incredible skater, just not sure how he scores his goals will translate to scoring lots in the bigs. I’m not saying he’s bad at all, he’s very skilled. I just don’t imagine he will be scoring as much with better talent rushing him. I see a lot of assists, good defence and a good guy on the half wall on the power play. He doesn’t have a great slap shot to man the top of the power play. I’ve seen him in Kelowna a couple times and didn’t really notice him offensively either which led me to watching hilights. I know it’s not a perfect measuring stick but hope someone could come chime in if I’m completely off my rocker. Thanks.

I think it's a good insight. There were a couple Avs fans who watched him fairly extensively before the draft and warned his goal scoring wouldn't translate to the NHL -- especially against NHL goaltenders. It's very much junior-style goal scoring, was essentially the take. It certainly puts a cap on his offensive upside. I guess the good news for the Avs (and Byram, perhaps) is that Makar already occupies that goal-scoring role on the Avs' back end...as said above, they really just need him to be a quality-defensively top pairing defensman. I think that (work on defensive details) was essentially the advice from the Avs when they sent him back to the Giants.

 

[Zaddy]

I went on YouTube to watch his hilights and came away noticing something. Watch his goals, they’re all wrist shots, all similar him doing toe drags and skating circles around whl competition. He’s an incredible skater, just not sure how he scores his goals will translate to scoring lots in the bigs. I’m not saying he’s bad at all, he’s very skilled. I just don’t imagine he will be scoring as much with better talent rushing him. I see a lot of assists, good defence and a good guy on the half wall on the power play. He doesn’t have a great slap shot to man the top of the power play. I’ve seen him in Kelowna a couple times and didn’t really notice him offensively either which led me to watching hilights. I know it’s not a perfect measuring stick but hope someone could come chime in if I’m completely off my rocker. Thanks.

This is something I pointed out a lot last year. He plays like a forward on the man advantage, he isn't a PPQB with a booming shot from the blueline. He's more of a finesse type player. I do think he'll still score those type of goals in the NHL, just not as frequent. I think he could be a Roman Josi type player if he develops properly.