Lack of Kansas City Scouts merchandise?

[Killion]

Looking for a legit, customized Scouts jersey - this place has them (and all defunct teams).

Wow. They do indeed & then some. Nice find.

 

[Boxscore]

Wow. They do indeed & then some. Nice find.

I am a big collector, have ordered from these guys for about 10 years. They have every team and do great work - pro-quality stitching and not the knockoffs from Asia. Legit CCM Vintage series.

My next one is a toss up between...

Atlanta Flames, Dan Bouchard #30
Hartford Whalers, Mark Howe #5
St. Louis Blues, Doug Harvey #2 (without HARVEY on back)
Toronto Toros, Frank Mahovlick #27

Torn!

 

[DowntownBooster]

I also adore the Devils red & Green, much more than the black. It was visually popping and gave them their own look rather than yet another team that wears black for no other reason than to wear black. People don't get that the green was in reference to both the garden State and the pine barrens where the Jersey Devil is said to live. It made sense more than random black.

I was totally unaware of the background regarding the green on the Devils uniforms. Thanks for that information zetastrike.

 

[Killion]

I am a big collector, have ordered from these guys for about 10 years. They have every team and do great work - pro-quality stitching and not the knockoffs from Asia. Legit CCM Vintage series.

My next one is a toss up between...

Atlanta Flames, Dan Bouchard #30
Hartford Whalers, Mark Howe #5
St. Louis Blues, Doug Harvey #2 (without HARVEY on back)
Toronto Toros, Frank Mahovlick #27

Torn!

Thats awesome that they also feature a photo of the player, action or card shot, publicity photo or what have you so you know your getting the real deal. Authentic right down to the period collar, details, logo's, fonts & materials etc. I dont collect but if I did, that'd be where I'd shop for sure, tie down #4 Habs with the C, Chicago Blackhawks 9 & 21 etc.... oh, and I'd definitely go with the #2 Doug Harvey, St. Louis.... Who else / what else have you got?

 

[Boxscore]

Thats awesome that they also feature a photo of the player, action or card shot, publicity photo or what have you so you know your getting the real deal. Authentic right down to the period collar, details, logo's, fonts & materials etc. I dont collect but if I did, that'd be where I'd shop for sure, tie down #4 Habs with the C, Chicago Blackhawks 9 & 21 etc.... oh, and I'd definitely go with the #2 Doug Harvey, St. Louis.... Who else / what else have you got?

Killion,

I have a ton. Been collecting for years! Just snapped a few photos for your enjoyment...

Much of my collection hanging...

Two that you would like - from that place I posted. #4 Bobby and #21 Mikita. Perfect fonts, material, stitching, weight, etc. (still have tags on them!)

And, just because I know you'll dig. Original Bobby Orr Bally's from 78. Works perfectly. Untouched other than LED light upgrade on lighting board. Original parts everyplace else...

For the record, my favorite jerseys are probably my Houston Aeros "GORDIE HOWE" #9, my custom-made "FETISOV" #2 Red Army with the "K", my early-70s, gold and purple Kings "VACHON" #30, and my "4" Bruins that is in the pic above.

 

[Killion]

Holy Cow @Boxscore! .... that is unreal... sticks, photos, ticket collector, seats (Forum, Garden?)
etc etc etc etc.... masks, Bobbleheads... and ya, thanks for pulling those 2 jerseys out. Beautiful.

 

[Boxscore]

Holy Cow @Boxscore! .... that is unreal... sticks, photos, ticket collector, seats (Forum, Garden?)
etc etc etc etc.... masks, Bobbleheads... and ya, thanks for pulling those 2 jerseys out. Beautiful.

You're welcome, thought you would enjoy some of the nostalgia. Seats... Montreal Forum (blue), Maple Leaf Gardens (red), Philly Spectrum pair (maroon), Boston Garden (yellow) and Chicago Stadium (Red). They are among my favorite things that I've collected. They just ooze nostalgia... as if those chairs could share tons of stories. Dinged up, nicked, ripped, dented, scratched. Never refurbished and never will.

 

[Killion]

You're welcome, thought you would enjoy some of the nostalgia. Seats... Montreal Forum (blue), Maple Leaf Gardens (red), Philly Spectrum pair (maroon), Boston Garden (yellow) and Chicago Stadium (Red). They are among my favorite things that I've collected. They just ooze nostalgia... as if those chairs could share tons of stories. Dinged up, nicked, ripped, dented, scratched. Never refurbished and never will.

.... awesome & good for you... what a wonderful collection & hobby..... great job in fixing up
& displaying them in what appears to be your basement. Nice & warm, contemporary, clean lines...

 

[Boxscore]

.... awesome & good for you... what a wonderful collection & hobby..... great job in fixing up
& displaying them in what appears to be your basement. Nice & warm, contemporary, clean lines...

Thank you very much. Started collecting in full when I was about 5 years old. Used to go to card stores, shows, flea markets with my dad as a kid. It was our "thing." My mom was big on the books, so she would get me all of these awesome hockey books in the 70s and 80s, which of course I still have. I love looking at them, paging through them, brushing up on them. Brings back great childhood memories and I love the vintage smell of the books.

Collecting is a great hobby. I started literally as a child and never stopped. It takes a lot of time and sacrifice, but well worth it. When my buddies were spending their time and money going on trips and bar after bar, I was working on my collection. Nothing better than flipping through a book or sorting through your hockey cards while the game is on in the background!

 

[McGarnagle]

You're probably right about that SealsFan. It was an interesting looking logo and was pretty good at the time though.

Last summer I was driving across the country and went through KC. While exploring the city I came across this statue and instantly recognized it thanks to the hockey team

The Scout (Kansas City, Missouri statue) - Wikipedia

 

[Theokritos]

Killion,

I have a ton. Been collecting for years! Just snapped a few photos for your enjoyment...

Much of my collection hanging...

Two that you would like - from that place I posted. #4 Bobby and #21 Mikita. Perfect fonts, material, stitching, weight, etc. (still have tags on them!)

And, just because I know you'll dig. Original Bobby Orr Bally's from 78. Works perfectly. Untouched other than LED light upgrade on lighting board. Original parts everyplace else...

For the record, my favorite jerseys are probably my Houston Aeros "GORDIE HOWE" #9, my custom-made "FETISOV" #2 Red Army with the "K", my early-70s, gold and purple Kings "VACHON" #30, and my "4" Bruins that is in the pic above.

That's a really nice-looking collection you have there. Congrats!

 

[DowntownBooster]

Last summer I was driving across the country and went through KC. While exploring the city I came across this statue and instantly recognized it thanks to the hockey team

The Scout (Kansas City, Missouri statue) - Wikipedia

That's pretty cool! The statue must have been the inspiration for the team logo.

 

[ICM1970]

Concerning Boxscore's collection, I wonder if he has one of few the team plaques that hung in the Leafs' dressing room that were miraculously saved from kindly Harold's purge of them back in about the mid 1970s (he said he wanted a hockey team, not a museum when he had them all taken out despite the fact that Conn and Stafford Smythe had kept them there all of the years they were the main owners of the team).

 

[Killion]

Concerning Boxscore's collection, I wonder if he has one of few the team plaques that hung in the Leafs' dressing room that were miraculously saved from kindly Harold's purge of them back in about the mid 1970s (he said he wanted a hockey team, not a museum when he had them all taken out despite the fact that Conn and Stafford Smythe had kept them there all of the years they were the main owners of the team).

Oh? What plaques would those be ICM?.... I used to wonder if there werent dark hole in the wall storage rooms scattered throughout Maple Leaf Gardens, or perhaps just one or two crammed full of old equipment & memorabilia, everything from Leaf to Marlboro to you name it treasures however.... I dont believe anything was ever found when the place was finally thoroughly cleaned up & out, gutted & renovated. Ballard & or one of the many working there through the 60's, 70's & 80's quickly monetized whatever they could, be it used equipment or banners, wall hangings or photographs that were no longer being used.

I cant recall the exact details or who was involved, but there was a mini scandal many years ago when it was discovered that game used Leaf gear was being sold through a sporting goods store in I believe Midland Ontario, a small city/town north of Toronto, Harold Ballard personally a beneficiary of these Black Market transactions as the equipment & memorabilia belonged to the Maple Leafs & or Maple Leaf Gardens, corporate entities. This was in the 60's or early 70's... possibly later. Tried to find something on-line but no luck. Joe Sgro, the Leafs long-time Trainer somehow coerced or threatened into going along with it or be fired. Crazy story.

... crazier still.... Paul Henderson upon his return from Russia in 72 gave his Team Canada jersey to Leaf Trainer Joe Sgro as a gift, way to thank him for looking after him all those years. Joe apparently hung onto it for years, decades, however, financial crisis, had to sell it & did so to a collector for a then record price of like $70,000 (previous record was a game worn Orr jersey for like $68K).... however.... this collector in 2012 then put it up for auction, Hendersons game worn TC 72 Summit jersey going for $1.2M.... a record that was duly entered into the Guinness Book of Records as the highest price ever paid for a sports jersey.

 

[ICM1970]

 

[Killion]

Oh ok, so thats interesting. Cant quite make them out but they appear to be typset prints of each years rosters with their records from each season..... Agree?... And sure, those would be nice to have provided you had the full set (and plenty of wall space).

 

[ICM1970]

Oh? What plaques would those be ICM?.... I used to wonder if there werent dark hole in the wall storage rooms scattered throughout Maple Leaf Gardens, or perhaps just one or two crammed full of old equipment & memorabilia, everything from Leaf to Marlboro to you name it treasures however.... I dont believe anything was ever found when the place was finally thoroughly cleaned up & out, gutted & renovated. Ballard & or one of the many working there through the 60's, 70's & 80's quickly monetized whatever they could, be it used equipment or banners, wall hangings or photographs that were no longer being used.

Hi, the above photo is what I was referring to in my comment. Conn and Stafford kept these plaques in the Leafs' dressing room all of the years that they both ran the club, but apparently kindly Harold had them trashed (save for a few) by about the mid 1970s. I've read stories involving how Ballard destroyed or had removed things that symbolized the team's successes under the Smythes. Foster's gondola was removed to make way for corporate boxes and then broken up to be incinerated despite requests to keep it for the Hockey Hall of Fame. Apparently, this took place following a dispute with Foster's radio network that had Ballard cut ties with it after the franchise had been with that network since 1923. In about 1971, Ballard ordered Gardens workers to clean out a storage room filled with game films that the Smythes had kept for many years. Some dear person overheard Ballard ordering the trashing of these films, so he took it upon himself to to the job on his own and filled up his station wagon with the films and took them home to store in his basement for many years. Leafs TV many years later took the films and they became an important vintage game archive for the network. The championship banners that hung in the Gardens for many years until the early to mid 1970s period were taken down supposedly because they blocked the sight lines in the Gardens. A few were discovered during a clean up of the Gardens following Ballard's death in 1990 in a storage room where they had apparently been used as protective mats by painters years earlier. Undoubtedly, there are many others stories concerning Gardens items and treasures lost or trashed or (thankfully) preserved and/or rediscovered.

 

[ICM1970]

Oh ok, so thats interesting. Cant quite make them out but they appear to be typset prints of each years rosters with their records from each season..... Agree?... And sure, those would be nice to have provided you had the full set (and plenty of wall space).

I recall watching the 1972 Summit Series game at MLG and there is a post game interview with Harry Sinden in which you can briefly see these plaques while Harry is being interviewed. Probably not long after, Ballard had them removed along with the other work he ordered done in the Gardens at the time.

 

[Killion]

I recall watching the 1972 Summit Series game at MLG and there is a post game interview with Harry Sinden in which you can briefly see these plaques while Harry is being interviewed. Probably not long after, Ballard had them removed along with the other work he ordered done in the Gardens at the time.

Yes, as others have written, Harold spent some 20yrs as majority owner of the Leafs & Gardens removing any & all vestiges of the Smythe era... and that included holdover players from the Glory Years, and that unfortunately included Dave Keon who really was the face of the franchise, and Ballards ego simply wouldnt allow for that. Other low key players however, Bower, George Armstrong, they were gainfully employed in coaching & scouting positions as you know.

The reporter who blew the whistle on Ballards desecration of the Gondola was apparently at a rock concert at the Gardens, looked up, something didnt seem "quite right", dawning on him that Foster Hewitts Gondola wasnt where it was supposed to be. So the next day he phoned the Gardens & asked to speak to Harold, the secretary screening the call asking "whats this about", so he makes something up because he knows if he tells her "its about the missing Gondola" she wouldnt put him through....

So he gets Ballard on the phone, after pleasantries asks him about the Gondola.... Ballard Sheepishly telling him it was a "hazard" etc but that if he printed one word of it, he'd be Banned 4 Life from the Gardens. Not good as the guy covered the Leafs huh?.... Well, he went right ahead & printed it anyway, howls of outrage.... gets Banned.... uses an alias thereafter to gain access to the Gardens, the players.... Ballard at one time banned all Globe & Mail Reporters from the dressing room, team flights... the press box...

Frank Orr, a 25+yr veteran with the Toronto Star, great writer, mildly critical of Ballard in a column winds up getting the silent treatment and worse, Ballard starts a viscous rumor. Junior HS idiocy, juvenile, that Frank Orr is Gay, Harold amongst his many other faults also a homophobic Moron as well apparently... as for Frank Orr, happily married.... Harold E. Ballard was a nasty piece of work in way over his head. A faker and a fraud.... But really, my favorite stories about Harold are his early years on the planet... the Young Harold. Just mindblowing. Beyond reckless. Total sociopath. Sea Flea Racer & some of his accidents... split your sides laughing about them.... pulled from the water unconscious on numerous occasions, his balsa wood craft in flames... other "events".... getting thrown into jail in Paris.... on & on & on.

 

[Bluesguru]

Killion,

I have a ton. Been collecting for years! Just snapped a few photos for your enjoyment...

Much of my collection hanging...

Two that you would like - from that place I posted. #4 Bobby and #21 Mikita. Perfect fonts, material, stitching, weight, etc. (still have tags on them!)

And, just because I know you'll dig. Original Bobby Orr Bally's from 78. Works perfectly. Untouched other than LED light upgrade on lighting board. Original parts everyplace else...

For the record, my favorite jerseys are probably my Houston Aeros "GORDIE HOWE" #9, my custom-made "FETISOV" #2 Red Army with the "K", my early-70s, gold and purple Kings "VACHON" #30, and my "4" Bruins that is in the pic above.

My goodness that looks like a fun room. I love it!!! And the dome hockey game. What a room. All those jerseys ------ hockey heaven!!

 

[Killion]

My goodness that looks like a fun room. I love it!!! And the dome hockey game. What a room. All those jerseys ------ hockey heaven!!

... ya no kiddin eh? and probably just a smallish % of it all. Boxscore could
well have a "media room" & wet bar down there with even more... lots more.


... might even collect vinyl.... nice old tube pre-amp & amps, turntable...

 

[tarheelhockey]

The Kansas City Scouts definitely had one of the more unique uniforms. I really liked the color scheme they used and when the franchise transferred to Colorado they kept the same colors even though the overall design changed. I guess when the franchise relocated once again to New Jersey to become the Devils, the color selection was limited given the name chosen. I suppose the color change from the original red, green and white when the team arrived in New Jersey to that of red, black and white made sense to better reflect the team name. I do wonder if the fans in New Jersey would have preferred a name other than Devils so they could have kept the colors used in Kansas City and Colorado.

I just can't get on board with that color scheme, especially the blues.

Colorado's was a little better because they at least simplified the striping a bit. But there's precious little difference between this:

and this:

 

[Killion]

I just can't get on board with that color scheme, especially the blues.

That was criminal, what the Blues did there with that version. Unbelievable..... Now, do you remember the Winston-Salem Polar Twins of the SPHL tarheel? NC's 1st pro hockey team, colors were black, white & silver (or really steel grey) much like the LA Kings and a very Edward Gorey like logo featuring 2 Polar Bears out for a skate with sticks & sweaters. They eventually changed that logo to something far less interesting though more colorful but the original which can be found about 2/3rd's of the way down on this page under "Hockey in the South" ... a nice, clean look... www.theboltons.net/JerseysHockey.htm ... bottom row in the middle....

 

[DowntownBooster]

I just can't get on board with that color scheme, especially the blues.

Colorado's was a little better because they at least simplified the striping a bit. But there's precious little difference between this:

and this:

I think the difference for me is that Kansas City came into the NHL as an expansion franchise and the colors looked bold at the time. I really liked their white jerseys and during that period of time I was never a big fan of any teams away (dark) jerseys. Although the striping on the Scouts jerseys was not as simple as when the team became the Rockies, they were basically horizontal as was common at the time. There were no strange angles to the stripes on the Scouts jerseys like there was on the St. Louis Blues jerseys. The reason why the colors don't work on the Blues jerseys, aside from the angled striping, is the radical departure from the Blues traditional look. My favorite jerseys for St. Louis was those used from 1977-79.

 

[tarheelhockey]

That was criminal, what the Blues did there with that version. Unbelievable..... Now, do you remember the Winston-Salem Polar Twins of the SPHL tarheel? NC's 1st pro hockey team, colors were black, white & silver (or really steel grey) much like the LA Kings and a very Edward Gorey like logo featuring 2 Polar Bears out for a skate with sticks & sweaters. They eventually changed that logo to something far less interesting though more colorful but the original which can be found about 2/3rd's of the way down on this page under "Hockey in the South" ... a nice, clean look... www.theboltons.net/JerseysHockey.htm ... bottom row in the middle....

I don't remember them... a bit before my time. I did take their name for my ATD team one year

Small correction, because it's close to my heart for obvious reasons. The Polar Twins were not NC's first pro team... that came 20 years earlier, when the Baltimore Clippers' arena burned down and the team relocated to become the Charlotte Clippers in a gleaming new domed arena. The Clippers were renamed the Checkers a few years later, and the franchise became the spearhead for the EHL's Southern Division which eventually became the SHL. That laid the footprint for eventual ECHL expansion into the south and today's SPHL which is somehow still hanging in there against all odds.

I've never been down to Fayetteville for an SPHL game but it's on my to-do list. They had a fantastically minor-league name for a while, the Fayetteville Fire Antz, but that's been changed to the Marksmen (largest military base in the world makes up a large chunk of the population there). That league produced Scott Darling, so I feel like I need to go down there and give 'em a piece of my mind