Kucherov (now) or Stamkos (09-12)?

[bobbyking]

It's definitely kucherov. Stamkos was a better goal scorer but kucherovs all around offense and hockey iq is significantly higher then anything from stamkos

 

[Deen]

Yeah I'll take the new guy who is good now.

 

[The Macho King]

Peak Stamkos scored from everywhere, all the time, but he didn't jump out at you. You'd think he was having a ho hum game and then realize somehow he had 2g 1a. Kucherov tilts the ice more, and is more visually impressive, but peak Stamkos...

I mean, you can't teach someone to score 60 goals. And dat flow....

 

[Rschmitz]

Voted Stamkos. Seemed like every time he fired the puck in those years it would end up in the back of the net regardless of circumstance.

Kucherov creates grade A chances

Stamkos converted on grade D chances

 

[Regal]

Kucherov is a better play driver, but at the same time you can't ignore the value in a goalscorer like Stamkos who can basically score from anywhere. In a vacuum I would take Kucherov, but if I already had an elite play driver who made others better, I would take Stamkos because of how unique a weapon he was. I just don't think you win with a Stamkos-type as your best player

 

[Varan]

09-12 was so low scoring compared to the scoring environment now. We have not seen close to the scoring there is in the league since 05/06. Makes you wonder what Crosby, Ovechkin, Malkin could have gotten in there prime this year.

OV - running away w/ the Rocket and possibly 50 in 50 as well as top 3 in points and PPG
Crosby - top 3 in points and challenging to some degree for the RR, and PPG (probably first)
Malkin - top 3 in points and PPG
McDavid in the race for AR as well

 

[Nathaniel Skywalker]

Overall offensive player>goal scorer

 

[tony d]

Close but Kucherov.

 

[VinikToWinIt]

Peak Stamkos scored from everywhere, all the time, but he didn't jump out at you. You'd think he was having a ho hum game and then realize somehow he had 2g 1a. Kucherov tilts the ice more, and is more visually impressive, but peak Stamkos...

I mean, you can't teach someone to score 60 goals. And dat flow....

This. I don't know why everyone is ignoring Stamkos' clear dominance in flow1/60.

 

[Karl Eriksson]

I’d go Kucherov due to recency bias.

 

[KoozNetsOff 92]

Overall offensive player>goal scorer

I agree that Kucherov is a better overall offensive player but Stamkos did finish 2nd in pts and was well over PPG.

 

[CanadienShark]

I'll take a modern day MSL over the guy who was propped up by the old MSL.

 

[Felidae]

Stamkos in 2011-12 outproduced 10th in points by 19, and the 20th highest point producer by 26.

He outscored the runner up for the richard by 10 goals, then had a 24 and a 29 goal gap over the 10th and 20th best goal scorers.

All the while being 3rd in PPG.

In comparison, Kucherov currently has a 17 point lead over 10th place, and a 24 point lead over 20th

PPG wise, the gap is 42 points over 20th place, and 28 over 10th.

If he actually maintains his PPG which i'd think many find to be unlikely. It's him no question.

But if the point difference is more in line with his current lead. I'd pick Stamkos.

Also, i dont think anyone can use the linemate argument. Kucherov has 17 points more than Point, while Stamkos had 23 more than Martin St Louis.

 

[Jarey Curry]

Stamkos

 

[KoozNetsOff 92]

I'll take a modern day MSL over the guy who was propped up by the old MSL.

Stamkos had 23 more pts than MSL that season.