billybudd
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No.
"Kronwalled" is the same in every language.
Kronwalled: to cheapshot someone then hide like a rat.
No.
"Kronwalled" is the same in every language.
Kronwalled: to cheapshot someone then hide like a rat.
Not saying it was a dirty hit but one day someone is gonna make this guy pay.
This is absolutely not true. Kronwall would prefer to be scored on than receive a check and plays the game with those priorities in mind. On the rare occasion he doesn't have time to give the puck to the opponent so he can get out of the way, he lays on the ice like he's dead.
There's also the bit about hiding between referee's legs when confronted eye to eye, which is his patented move.
I don't really understand why anyone would decide to injure someone on a non-rival club, in a largely decided game against a team that can't beat you and has no future in the tournament. It's completely pointless.
Remember that Cherry rant where he didn't like Torres running a rookie in a meaningless game? This is that, but much worse.
The guy he flattened plays in the Belorussian league, he's probably not as familiar with Kronwall's antics as other guys, besides it's a meaningless game in the preliminary round so he probably didn't figure that someone would try to concuss him like that
Poor Latvians. They would never do anything to hurt a player in a "meaningless" game
He might hide, but he's not out there throwing cheapshots.
I don't really understand why anyone would decide to injure someone on a non-rival club, in a largely decided game against a team that can't beat you and has no future in the tournament. It's completely pointless.
Remember that Cherry rant where he didn't like Torres running a rookie in a meaningless game? This is that, but much worse.
Funny thing, a defenceman in my league is well known for throwing the same sort of hit. One of our guys last year did the exact same thing as the Latvian player here but knew the defenceman would be coming, so he crosschecked him as hard as he could in the back.
Didn't see him try to throw another hit like that against us the rest of the year.
I'm a big Karlsson fan, but I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to prove. Karlsson taunted the guy and the guy tried to fight him. That's sort of the point of taunting someone.
Don't see what relevance this has to an NHL player trying to end the career of an amateur in a meaningless, decided, glorified exhibition game for no reason whatsoever.
Ah, come on.
This is a hockey hit all the way. The main impact hits the Latvian player in the stomach.
Look, of course I am biased. I kind of get your point. I remember being half-upset for Big E almost killing a Japanese player in the 98's Olympics during the second period when Canada was up like 6-0.
With all due respect, but if you had played the game you would have known the diffrence between Torres hit and Kronwalls hit.
-There is a few areas on the ice where a player must keep his head up if he have the puck.
-A defensemen must take the body if he stands up a player, if not, that player will get a breakaway/odd man rush.
If anything, I think Kronwall actually saves players health.
He reminds people to keep their heads up. And his hits are always clean and he never headhunts, so the damage he does is never that severe.
Tried to fight him? If you want to fight someone you make sure both are ready, drop your gloves and go. That guy jumped Karlsson, which is why he got a 5+20 and Karlsson could skate back to his bench.
What twisted logic. Kronwall is showing consideration by trying to injure amateurs on purpose in meaningless games for the sin of not having NHL hockey sense.
Then what you're telling me is that unless a defenseman abandons his position in the neutral zone to fly at a forward who's not his responsibility at that moment there will be a breakaway. This makes absolutely zero sense. If anything, an odd-man break is more likely playing him this way (probably one reason why the puck's in the net so much more often when Kronwall's on the ice than when any other Red Wing defenseman is).
Which Torres hit? The one on Eberle? Most of Kronwall's hits from a few years ago are far worse because he's taking 6 strides and leaping at the jaw with an extended elbow pad. Torres glided into eberle's head. That's not nearly as cheap as what Kronwall did to, I think, bonk.
Now, no. He hasn't done anything as dangerous as what Torres did to Hossa in quite a while.
But that's a completely separate issue.
Cherry's point on the Eberle hit is you don't run a guy who doesn't know any better in a pointless game just out of common human decency. This latvian knows less well and this game was more pointless.
This doesn't apply to beerleague, but all you have to do is drop your upper-body forward to waist height. See what Kronwall thinks about the way he plays when he's put himself in a neck-brace instead of the other guy. Guarantee he'll never do it again if he skates another shift.
I don't care if it's clean, it's just bad form in a game like that. Latvia isn't going to the QF, Sweden is. Just play it out with the intensity the scenario warrants. Do you want to put a guy in hospital in a game like that?
No need for punishment, I just think it's not what a good guy would do in a situation like that.
Tried to fight him? If you want to fight someone you make sure both are ready, drop your gloves and go. That guy jumped Karlsson, which is why he got a 5+20 and Karlsson could skate back to his bench.
What twisted logic. Kronwall is showing consideration by trying to injure amateurs on purpose in meaningless games for the sin of not having NHL hockey sense.
Then what you're telling me is that unless a defenseman abandons his position in the neutral zone to fly at a forward who's not his responsibility at that moment there will be a breakaway. This makes absolutely zero sense. If anything, an odd-man break is more likely playing him this way (probably one reason why the puck's in the net so much more often when Kronwall's on the ice than when any other Red Wing defenseman is).
Which Torres hit? The one on Eberle? Most of Kronwall's hits from a few years ago are far worse because he's taking 6 strides and leaping at the jaw with an extended elbow pad. Torres glided into eberle's head. That's not nearly as cheap as what Kronwall did to, I think, bonk.
Now, no. He hasn't done anything as dangerous as what Torres did to Hossa in quite a while.
But that's a completely separate issue.
Cherry's point on the Eberle hit is you don't run a guy who doesn't know any better in a pointless game just out of common human decency. This latvian knows less well and this game was more pointless.
What twisted logic. Kronwall is showing consideration by trying to injure amateurs on purpose in meaningless games for the sin of not having NHL hockey sense.
Then what you're telling me is that unless a defenseman abandons his position in the neutral zone to fly at a forward who's not his responsibility at that moment there will be a breakaway. This makes absolutely zero sense. If anything, an odd-man break is more likely playing him this way (probably one reason why the puck's in the net so much more often when Kronwall's on the ice than when any other Red Wing defenseman is).
Which Torres hit? The one on Eberle? Most of Kronwall's hits from a few years ago are far worse because he's taking 6 strides and leaping at the jaw with an extended elbow pad. Torres glided into eberle's head. That's not nearly as cheap as what Kronwall did to, I think, bonk.
Now, no. He hasn't done anything as dangerous as what Torres did to Hossa in quite a while.
But that's a completely separate issue.
Also, regarding the first bolded part, I mean come on. Ok let's put it like this, if a D steps up a player at this level and don't take the body but just tries to pokecheck the puck -- his coach will be pissed at him. It is modus operandus for a D to take the body. I cannot guarantee that there will be a break away lol. You got me there.
Cherry's point on the Eberle hit is you don't run a guy who doesn't know any better in a pointless game just out of common human decency. This latvian knows less well and this game was more pointless.
this is true, but Karlsson showed him they are gonna fight later when they were both going to the penalty box, that was clear. Then he walks out of the box and acts like nothing happened and doesn't care about the other guy? Strange.
Btw. Karlsson shoud get some penalty too, because he was fighting back.