Value of: Kovalchuk, Carter, or Quick at 50% retained

[Kurrilino]

Why would we even trade them away ????
Those 3 guys are guaranteeing us 3 years of picks in the 1-3 range.
If any, we take on bad contracts and get picks in return.

There absolutely no trade or any change to our actual roster that turns us into a playoff team.
So let's have a hell of a ride the next 4 years and have a blast at the draft events.

Worked great when drafting Kopitar, Brown and Doughty.

 

[kilowatt]

Why would we even trade them away ????
Those 3 guys are guaranteeing us 3 years of picks in the 1-3 range.
If any, we take on bad contracts and get picks in return.

There absolutely no trade or any change to our actual roster that turns us into a playoff team.
So let's have a hell of a ride the next 4 years and have a blast at the draft events.

Worked great when drafting Kopitar, Brown and Doughty.

At no point did I suggest packaging any assets to trade these players. I believe that all three are and can continue to be valuable, productive players in the NHL. If anything, trading them makes the Kings worse.

 

[Chayos]

Puljujarvi for Carter at 50% retained

 

[Perfect_Drug]

Puljujarvi for Carter at 50% retained

Lucic for all 3 with 50% retained.

 

[rajuabju]

We need Carter, Quick and Kovy to continue the tank and get more picks. Sorry.

 

[jetsforever]

Has Carter really declined that much? I'd be tempted to try him on the Jets (with salary retention).

 

[raswilliam]

Carter had a down year, yes. He was rehabbing an injury, has 2 small kids at home, has 2 cups already and his team was out of contention pretty much the entire year. No shit he had a down yeAr and dogged it. I feel he’s still top 6 winger in this league. Move him to wing this year, he can still skate and shoot. People underestimating this dude big time.

 

[mercury]

Carter had a down year, yes. He was rehabbing an injury, has 2 small kids at home, has 2 cups already and his team was out of contention pretty much the entire year. No **** he had a down yeAr and dogged it. I feel he’s still top 6 winger in this league. Move him to wing this year, he can still skate and shoot. People underestimating this dude big time.

Robert Hagg for Carter at 50% retained?

 

[kilowatt]

Robert Hagg for Carter at 50% retained?

Kings don’t really have a need for Hagg, we would likely just try to flip him for futures. I’d rather have a prospect or pick.

 

[kilowatt]

We need Carter, Quick and Kovy to continue the tank and get more picks. Sorry.

I really disagree. I don’t think the Kings have better replacement-level players, with the exception of Quick. Kovalchuk scored 16 goals in 64 games, with many of those on the fourth line! I understand he wasn’t playing two-way hockey, but who was for LA? He was in Wd40’s doghouse most of the year. Carter looked really bad at the beginning of the year but got better as the season went on.

Quick, at under $3 million is still a great goalie. You could do worse than Kovalchuk and Carter in your top 9, especially at third line salaries.

 

[elitepete]

Sutter for Kovalchuk straight up.

 

[McSuper]

What would your team be willing to offer for any of these guys with (or without) retention?

Kovalchuk: 2 years, $6,250,000 cap hit
$3,125,000 at 50% retained, $4,950,00 actual salary remaining

Carter: 3 years, $5,272,727 cap hit
$2,636,364 at 50% retained, $7,000,000 actual salary remaining

Quick: 4 years, $5,800,000 cap hit
$2,900,000 at 50% retained, $16,000,000 actual salary remaining

All three guys have a higher cap hit than they do salary remaining, and all three guys can still be positive contributors to new teams. Wondering what these guys at 50% retention might fetch. Looking mostly for picks and prospects.

Lucic 50% retain + Koskinen + 2021 1st for Quick and Carter

 

[sebsisles]

Kings don’t really have a need for Hagg, we would likely just try to flip him for futures. I’d rather have a prospect or pick.

Carter at 50% for Ho Sang?

 

[LAKings88]

Honestly they are at their lowest value wise.

Need a big rebound just so they can be mentioned at the next trade deadline.

Kings are stuck with them now.

All three could have solid years under a new coach and recommitment.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Quick still is very valuable. The other 2 not so much

 

[mercury]

Mark Friedman? Wade Allison?

 

[KingCanadain1976]

Am I having deja view here? Yes we all know the 3 of them had a bad season. However this is reminding me of Dustin Brown and how everyone was saying hes done worst contract in the nhl etc. Browns issues was a coach that he didn't get along with. Based on how bad everyone played last year in la I have this feeling coaching had a huge effect on our players. I am more then willing to see how they all play under a better coach before sending them out at %50 off Just one King fans opinion not a popular one but just as valid as anyones on the site

 

[kilowatt]

Am I having deja view here? Yes we all know the 3 of them had a bad season. However this is reminding me of Dustin Brown and how everyone was saying hes done worst contract in the nhl etc. Browns issues was a coach that he didn't get along with. Based on how bad everyone played last year in la I have this feeling coaching had a huge effect on our players. I am more then willing to see how they all play under a better coach before sending them out at %50 off Just one King fans opinion not a popular one but just as valid as anyones on the site

I think you’re totally right, I was just wondering what the value would be. This could be a fun thread to revisit either at the deadline or next summer.

 

[KingCanadain1976]

I think you’re totally right, I was just wondering what the value would be. This could be a fun thread to revisit either at the deadline or next summer.

I could see all 3 having bounce back years and returning a positive return weather a pick or prospects The kings will get younger and faster. At worse they suck and we get a top 5 pick either way i think it will benefit the kings more keeping them then trading and retaining cap

 

[Reaper45]

Of the 3, I'd move Carter then Kovalchuk then Quick. I think all can and will bounce back. People are underestimating how shitty the coaching in L.A. was last season, and some of these guys coasted during the shit show season. With a new real coach and a fire under their ass/axe over their head I'm pretty sure they're going to be much better.

 

[themelkman]

If I didnt hate Quick with a passion he would be amazing at that price

 

[tomd]

If I didnt hate Quick with a passion he would be amazing at that price

Kind of hard to hate a guy who was statisically the worst goalie in the NHL last year...

 

[tony d]

Lots of teams around the league that have ? goalie issues. I could see Quick having a lot of interest around the league.

 

[tomd]

Lots of teams around the league that have ? goalie issues. I could see Quick having a lot of interest around the league.

Very few though (maybe none) have such ? in goal that they are willing to take on a 33 year-old with 4 years left of an almost $6 million cap hit. Especially a goalie who was statistically the worst in the NHL last year. Different story if he only had one year left but 4 is a killer. In fact, looking around the league I don't see any teams that desperate for goaltending.

 

[Schmooley]

Id keep kovalchuk and see what he can do with more opportunity. He looked good last year. Quick wasnt his best last year but the defense in front of him was horrid so its not totally on him.
Carter was bad. Real bad. Pathetic. Hope he was playing hurt. If he plays like that this year i hope he retires sooner than later. I actually really like him and hes always been a driver for the team so they need him to be on his game and get enganged.
Kovalchuck and quick were more of "the kings were bad and it dragged them down and made them look bad." With carter its more "he is one of the main reasons the kings were bad."