Value of: Konecny to Vancouver

[Johnsie19]

Heard it on the radio the other day and it seemed to make some sense

Philly are doing well this yr but I think they know they're a couple good drafts away and trading someone like Konecny now might hasten the rebuild.

Canucks would love it because he has team control for two playoff runs.

I'll make my proposal and you can all bash me and hopefully your idea of what the cost would be.

To Van
Konecny

To Philly
Kuzmenko (whatever you think his value is he needs to offset the cap and he's a good reclamation project)
1st
Podkolzin (I think he's very close to being an impact NHLer. Not top line material but great secondary type guy with grit)

Option 2

Konecny
Walker

for

Lekerimaki
Kuzmenko
Silovs

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[LegionOfGloom]

I think the starting point for TK is a 1st and A prospect so your proposals are short

 

[Jared Dunn]

Torts is going to love Kuzmenko lol. Add a 2nd to the first package and you're probably in the Konecny ballpark, but I don't think Philly is in any hurry to move him

 

[FromOyVey2Matvei]

These are terrible for Philly.

 

[Johnsie19]

I think the starting point for TK is a 1st and A prospect so your proposals are short

Maybe. I think that'd also be the end point though. Wingers don't generally return more than 2 assets.

These are terrible for Philly.

What would you want from Van?

 

[LegionOfGloom]

Maybe. I think that'd also be the end point though. Wingers don't generally return more than 2 assets.


What would you want from Van?

He's also not expiring which changes the calculus and he may be a winger but he's one who plays all three phases. I'd want one of Lek or Wallinder and the 1st (and whatever reasonable salary going back to make it work).

 

[BKarchitect]

Kuzmenko, Podkolzin and pick…is this 2024 Halak, Ryder and 2nd?

 

[Johnsie19]

He's also not expiring which changes the calculus and he may be a winger but he's one who plays all three phases. I'd want one of Lek or Wallinder and the 1st (and whatever reasonable salary going back to make it work).

True that boosts his value. I personally think Lekerimaki or Willander are too valuable in this case. I might do Lekerimaki and a 2nd. But a 15th overall who has exploded since being drafted, won WJC MVP and a first is a tad rich.

 

[Takumi3000]

I’d offer Lekk, 1st, 2nd, and Kuzmenko. Konecny is an impact forward and not a rental

 

[Alex K]

Option 2

Konecny
Walker

for

Lekerimaki
Kuzmenko
Silovs

If Danny B trades for Lekerimaki after Gauthier situation, it would be hilarious
If serious, the Flyers have a logjam on that right wing even without Konecny, they need a center.

 

[Johnsie19]

I’d offer Lekk, 1st, 2nd, and Kuzmenko. Konecny is an impact forward and not a rental

That is way too much. Lek is projecting to be an impact player on his ELC alone.

 

[Vector]

Kuzmenko, Podkolzin and pick…is this 2024 Halak, Ryder and 2nd?

God no. It's Raymond, Ballard, & a 2nd.

 

[Johnsie19]

If Danny B trades for Lekerimaki after Gauthier situation, it would be hilarious
If serious, the Flyers have a logjam on that right wing even without Konecny, they need a center.

Haha just to spite Cutter. I like it even more now.

Could do Lek + Raty

 

[StreetHawk]

Heard it on the radio the other day and it seemed to make some sense

Philly are doing well this yr but I think they know they're a couple good drafts away and trading someone like Konecny now might hasten the rebuild.

Canucks would love it because he has team control for two playoff runs.

I'll make my proposal and you can all bash me and hopefully your idea of what the cost would be.

To Van
Konecny

To Philly
Kuzmenko (whatever you think his value is he needs to offset the cap and he's a good reclamation project)
1st
Podkolzin (I think he's very close to being an impact NHLer. Not top line material but great secondary type guy with grit)

Option 2

Konecny
Walker

for

Lekerimaki
Kuzmenko
Silovs

Given who their HC is, I don't think it makes sense. Tocchet is having some issues getting Kuz to play the way he wants. I doubt that gets any better for Kuz under Torts.

Philly is very much in the PO race. That's an off-season trade from Philly's POV if they opt to make it, not one at the TDL.

 

[Johnsie19]

God no. It's Raymond, Ballard, & a 2nd.

We weren't asking for much with that package though. I think we wanted David Booth

 

[LemonSauceD]

If Danny B trades for Lekerimaki after Gauthier situation, it would be hilarious
If serious, the Flyers have a logjam on that right wing even without Konecny, they need a center.

Kinda curious if Lekker and Gauthier continue their beef at the NHL level. They’re divisional rivals now lol

 

[Hierso]

That is way too much. Lek is projecting to be an impact player on his ELC alone.

At least it wasn't a "our spare parts for your star" type of post which is way to common.

 

[Johnsie19]

Given who their HC is, I don't think it makes sense. Tocchet is having some issues getting Kuz to play the way he wants. I doubt that gets any better for Kuz under Torts.

Philly is very much in the PO race. That's an off-season trade from Philly's POV if they opt to make it, not one at the TDL.

They are but chances are they start to fall away in the coming weeks. It'd be a fwd thinking trade no doubt. Offseason the value would be lower.

 

[wintersej]

While the Flyers shouldn't be afraid to sell assets, the value for TK here isn't even enough for them at the TDL next year, never mind to do it early and waive the white flag on the playoffs this season.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Outside of Russians in the KHL, if a player isn't making progress at the NHL level D+5, his trade value won't be much. Looking at recent trades, New York gave up on Kravtsov at a similar point and the return was close to nothing. Juolevi was swapped for another reclamation project after his season. Jost was traded for a 4th line rental D+6. Draft pedigree fades.

 

[Takumi3000]

That is way too much. Lek is projecting to be an impact player on his ELC alone.

You have to give up something valuable to get something valuable in return. Konecny would put us over the top and he’d be available for the following year as well. His salary cap also cancels perfectly with Kuzmenko’s. It’s a win-win for both sides.

 

[Cheddarcheese]

Kent Johnson
2nd
Boviest

but only if he re signed with the blue jackets

 

[BlamBlam]

If they’re going to trade the kind of pieces being mentioned better off to get a center.

 

[Alex K]

Haha just to spite Cutter. I like it even more now.

Could do Lek + Raty

To Vancouver: Konecny
To Anaheim: Lekkerimaki (I know, it's even more hilarious), VAN 1st, PHI 1st, PHI 2nd
To Philly: Zegras

 

[HFpapi]

Konecny has proven himself to be an absolute stud and this would be a huge pickup for Vancouver if they are really serious about going for it this year.

To get him, Canucks fans have to accept it's Lekkerimaki or Willander AND a 1st, and quite frankly I think it's worth it.