Value of: Klefbom or Nurse + Lucic to Boston

Neutrinos

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I don't think the Oilers would entertain moving Nurse at this point. Not unless it was for a major upgrade in talent
 

Alberta_OReilly_Fan

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whole bunch of contract... that's one heck of a cap hit and boston is right up near the cap ceiling

its simpler to make a trade proposal that makes sense if you figure out a way to lesson the cap consequences

maybe

klefbom
lucic {1/2 retained}

for
krug
Heinen
cehlarik

something like this would probably be revenue neutral for both sides and might be an exchange of assets that both sides might be able to live with?

but then you have to get past the bad personal blood between bostons front office and the guy they fired who is in charge in Edmonton now
 

780il

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whole bunch of contract... that's one heck of a cap hit and boston is right up near the cap ceiling

its simpler to make a trade proposal that makes sense if you figure out a way to lesson the cap consequences

maybe

klefbom
lucic {1/2 retained}

for
krug
Heinen
cehlarik

something like this would probably be revenue neutral for both sides and might be an exchange of assets that both sides might be able to live with?

but then you have to get past the bad personal blood between bostons front office and the guy they fired who is in charge in Edmonton now
Make the retention 2 mil instead of 3 and I take that and run. Far far away.
 

BB88

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Zero intrest in Lucic contract, hurts the cap too much& better Lw's on the roster already.
 
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Spazkat

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It seems like Oilers fans are wildly overestimating the amount of nostalgia Boston fans might have for Lucic. He's not good anymore and that contract is atrocious.

The better question would likely be "what can we give you to bribe you to take him back"
 
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Bobbybruins

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Wow, so your trying to convince folks that Nurse 47 points in four years makes him a better player then Krugs 59 points last year alone. Then you want to add Heiden and JFK in the mix. Come on man, wake up and smell the coffee. No way in hell Boston gives up more then just Krug for one of either Klefbom or Nurse.

Return starts with Krug. If its Klefbom then we add a pick. If its Nurse then they add Heinen + JFK.
 

Chayos

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whole bunch of contract... that's one heck of a cap hit and boston is right up near the cap ceiling

its simpler to make a trade proposal that makes sense if you figure out a way to lesson the cap consequences

maybe

klefbom
lucic {1/2 retained}

for
krug
Heinen
cehlarik

something like this would probably be revenue neutral for both sides and might be an exchange of assets that both sides might be able to live with?

but then you have to get past the bad personal blood between bostons front office and the guy they fired who is in charge in Edmonton now

This deal is exactly the move that would work for all parties IMO. 1/2 is a bit much, but say 2.0 million per. Boston gets back a relatively young Lucic for 4.0 cap hit and only 2.5 cash hit for the balance of his deal, which is actually good value for him. If he turns it around and returns to 50 point territory the Oilers lose this deal. Lucic goes home to Boston and Klefbom has a value contract for 6 more years. The oilers get their PP defenceman with a young aggressive winger to replace Lucic.
 

ConnorMcNugesaitl

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I'm not sure why people think the Oilers would retain half on Lucic and get nothing of value in return.

Whether you like Lucic or not and I personally don't Lucic for 5 years at 3 million a year has significant positive value.

I don't see any reason why the Oilers would focus on Boston or trade a defenseman with him if they're retaining 3 million or even 2 million a year. There are going to be much better deals available under those circumstances than the ones in this thread.
 

Gonzothe7thDman

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Boston taking Lucic even at 50% is a favor to EDM. He isn't going to have a McDavid or Draisaitl to play with in Boston.

And he's not going to take ice time away from Debrusk to play with Krejci.

If we are taking Lucic, we are getting compensated for it.

If it's Lucic @3.5 and Nurse coming to Boston, you can have Krug and Heinen.

Even that hurts to give up. Boston really rolling the dice that Lucic is going to be serviceable on the 3rd line with a young unproven center.

Edmonton gets a cheaper, younger, controlled winger who will most likely put up more points than Lucic. And already has a great 2 way game. And an almost guaranteed top 5 pp by adding Krug.

Only way Boston wins this trade is if Nurse is able to take over for Chara when he retires.
 

ChaoticOrange

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Lucic + Nurse for Zaitsev, Leivo, 2nd

Not even in NHL18.

Zaitsev might be as big a cap dump as Lucic right away here. The guy is brutal. Leivo has zero value and is just waiver fodder.

Toronto absolutely does not have the disposable pieces to land Nurse, because no one is going to give up a good young defenceman for the disposable parts Leaf fans continually try to foist off on the rest of this board.
 
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ChaoticOrange

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Boston taking Lucic even at 50% is a favor to EDM. He isn't going to have a McDavid or Draisaitl to play with in Boston.

And he's not going to take ice time away from Debrusk to play with Krejci.

If we are taking Lucic, we are getting compensated for it.

If it's Lucic @3.5 and Nurse coming to Boston, you can have Krug and Heinen.

Even that hurts to give up. Boston really rolling the dice that Lucic is going to be serviceable on the 3rd line with a young unproven center.

Edmonton gets a cheaper, younger, controlled winger who will most likely put up more points than Lucic. And already has a great 2 way game. And an almost guaranteed top 5 pp by adding Krug.

Only way Boston wins this trade is if Nurse is able to take over for Chara when he retires.

Retaining 2.5 mil on Lucic is completely pointless. Nurse is too big a piece to give up with that amount of retention.
 

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