Kirby Dach vs Trevor Zegras

[The Abusement Park]

Dach is fine. But I still don’t think he’s going to be a top line C in this league, maybe a top 6 guy. Dach really needs to add some production to his game because size and supposed two way ability only gets you so far.

Zegras on the other hand is light years ahead of Dach offensively and looks like a genuine superstar in the making. I don’t get why Dach has any votes at the moment.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Dach is fine. But I still don’t think he’s going to be a top line C in this league, maybe a top 6 guy. Dach really needs to add some production to his game because size and supposed two way ability only gets you so far.

Zegras on the other hand is light years ahead of Dach offensively and looks like a genuine superstar in the making. I don’t get why Dach has any votes at the moment.

people are very reluctant to accept zegras as a potential star player

 

[The Abusement Park]

people are very reluctant to accept zegras as a potential star player

I mean he’s almost there as it is. The difference between Dach and Zegras at the moment is monumental and even if you don’t think Zegras becomes a superstar I don’t know how you don’t pick him still.

 

[Boreal01]

Zegras

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

Dach is fine. But I still don’t think he’s going to be a top line C in this league, maybe a top 6 guy. Dach really needs to add some production to his game because size and supposed two way ability only gets you so far.

Zegras on the other hand is light years ahead of Dach offensively and looks like a genuine superstar in the making. I don’t get why Dach has any votes at the moment.

Dach has Kakko disease where he looks great on a consistent basis but nothing is going in.

 

[The Abusement Park]

Dach has Kakko disease where he looks great on a consistent basis but nothing is going in.

Well when it starts to go in maybe this can be a discussion. But the only real thing he has over Zegras right now is size.

 

[UED]

Cheering for Dach to turn his career around but today it's not even close to being close, like Barzal vs Zacha, but even worse because Zegras is progressing really well and could totally become even better and Dach is completely stagnated.

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

Cheering for Dach to turn his career around but today it's not even close to being close, like Barzal vs Zacha, but even worse because Zegras is progressing really well and could totally become even better and Dach is completely stagnated.

He had a really nasty injury last year and it appears to have stalled his development. He looked to be on a superstar trajectory in the Edmonton bubble.

That being said, Dach is a playmaker and the entire Hawks team has been snakebitten this year. Hawks offense is starting to normalize so I'd wait a bit before drawing any conclusions.

 

[keglu]

people are very reluctant to accept zegras as a potential star player

There is no reluctancy. It's actually very " what have you done to me lately" here.
But poll was made before start of the season and thats why it's not too lopsided.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

I mean he’s almost there as it is. The difference between Dach and Zegras at the moment is monumental and even if you don’t think Zegras becomes a superstar I don’t know how you don’t pick him still.

People have been conditioned to think big centers are inherently more valuable than smaller, but more skilled centers, because the league is unfortunately heavily influenced by dinosaurs who still think it's 1996.

 

[The Red Line]

Dach is young with plenty of time to turn it around and get things going. Still, this is easily Zegras.

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

Dach is young with plenty of time to turn it around and get things going. Still, this is easily Zegras.

As of right now, sure.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

As of right now, sure.

The only thing that might change is that the gap may widen further.

 

[The Red Line]

As of right now, sure.

As opposed to when? If you're still clinging onto his draft spot 3 years ago, I dunno what to tell you.

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

As opposed to when? If you're still clinging onto his draft spot 3 years ago, I dunno what to tell you.

I'm holding onto Dach's performance in the Edmonton bubble when he tossed around Draisaitl like a rag doll and was an absolute beast. He looked like one of the best players on the ice with Toews being vintage Toews and McDavid and Draisaitl on the other end. He was physically bullying Drai the entire series. Was impressive. It was also the last time he was healthy. Wrist injuries are notoriously tough and it was his right hand and he shoots right.

I know that Dach's numbers are pretty terrible but you have to put them in context. The entire Hawks offense has been crap this year. Lately the puck is starting to go in for the team and Dach is starting to pick up points.

This was an issue on Sunday:
Last 7 games, Kane, DeBrincat, Kubalik, Dach, Strome, 6 goals combined
Toews didn't score a goal until last week.

He may never be as good as Zegras, but I'm not ready to give up on the idea of Dach being an impact player yet.

 

[GettingYourMoms]

Whole draft sucked except Moritz and Zegras.

 

[Orange Fanta]

Whole draft sucked except Moritz and Zegras.

Too early to tell but cozens looks good and it looks like hughes is picking it up but zegras and seider broke out practically instantly and are easily 1 and 2 in a redraft currently

 

[PowerMac]

The problem is Dach has always had underwhelming production concerns despite having nice flashes even back in juniors

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Whole draft sucked except Moritz and Zegras.

Jack Hughes has 8p in 11gp as a 20 year old center.

2019 will actually end up one of the strongest drafts of the 2010's

 

[bsu]

Whole draft sucked except Moritz and Zegras.

Hughes? You're kidding right.

 

[Pavels Dog]

Hughes? You're kidding right.

For a #1OA he sucks so far. Doesn't mean he won't be a good player.