Friedman: Kings may be interested in Steve Mason

inthe6ix

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Mason is the better goalie between the two

Not sure why they keep looking to Neuvirth to platoon when he's a career backup and just played out of his mind last year.
 

BrindamoursNose

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It's always been clear that Mason is the stud of the team.

Maybe last year people just remember Neuvirth doing better in the playoffs, but Mason has been a consistent pillar for us these past 3-4 years.

It's a no-brainer who you keep between the two.
 

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Mason is the better goalie between the two

Not sure why they keep looking to Neuvirth to platoon when he's a career backup and just played out of his mind last year.

They are not looking to platoon. Mason was our#1 goalie last year....and is this year. Neuvirth has always been a good backup that can step in for stretches at a time when needed. He is off to a rough start, but am confident he will turn things around. He always does.
 

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Both flyer goalies are garbage....but Mason is better than LA currently has.
 

Leafs87

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I'm gunna go ahead and assume their underselling Quicks injury if their shopping for goalies like this
 

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Both flyer goalies are garbage....but Mason is better than LA currently has.

I'm getting pretty tired of this know-nothing crap. Mason has a better cumulative SV% than Quick if you go back 1, 2, 3 or 4 seasons and he's had a far worse defence every single year.

If Mason is garbage, what the hell is Quick?

Kings may be interested, but we hang up the phone.
 

YEM

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Both flyer goalies are garbage....but Mason is better than LA currently has.
well if Mason is garbage then...

Quick's SV% over the last 4 years is: .918, .918, .915 & .902
Mason's SV% over the last 4 years is: .918, .928, .917 & .916

and I think we can all agree that Quick has played behind the better overall team and certainly in front of a better defensive group as well
 

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well if Mason is garbage then...

Quick's SV% over the last 4 years is: .918, .918, .915 & .902
Mason's SV% over the last 4 years is: .918, .928, .917 & .916

and I think we can all agree that Quick has played behind the better overall team and certainly in front of a better defensive group as well

Masson's save% is inflated because he gets shelled with a higher number of shots from playing behind a bad defense. We've seen this with other goalies, like Miller in Buff.
 

inthe6ix

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Masson's save% is inflated because he gets shelled with a higher number of shots from playing behind a bad defense. We've seen this with other goalies, like Miller in Buff.

Varly in COL as well

I still don't see the Kings looking anywhere as Budaj is playing well and Zatkoff will return next week.
 

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Masson's save% is inflated because he gets shelled with a higher number of shots from playing behind a bad defense. We've seen this with other goalies, like Miller in Buff.

Quick's sv% is inflated because LA plays a defensive game that doesn't allow for high% scoring chances.

See how much fun this is?

Edit: Before everyone goes analytics crazy - the point was to illustrate there's always a 'reason' or 'excuse' for something. You could just as easily say that his sv% is lower because he sees more shots, and thus lets in more goals that he would if he were to see less shots.
 

YEM

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Masson's save% is inflated because he gets shelled with a higher number of shots from playing behind a bad defense. We've seen this with other goalies, like Miller in Buff.
Mason's faced roughly an average of 3 more shots per game vs. Quick over that 4 year time frame
not a huge difference & not enough that would balloon his stats vs. Quick
& no way to quantify this, but one would assume, given that LA has been and is a better defensive team than the Flyers, that Mason has likely faced more high quality chances/shots against vs. a superior defense team in LA...
 

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Masson's save% is inflated because he gets shelled with a higher number of shots from playing behind a bad defense. We've seen this with other goalies, like Miller in Buff.

That's not even nearly right. We have a few more shots per game and surely a considerably higher quality of shot. He's got a harder job in Philly and does much, much better.
 

BrindamoursNose

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Masson's save% is inflated because he gets shelled with a higher number of shots from playing behind a bad defense. We've seen this with other goalies, like Miller in Buff.

Even if that's true (which it has been proven to not be true)...isn't that just saying what SV% is? I think you're just further reinforcing that Mason does better work.

If all the shots he was facing were outside shots behind a curtain of a defense, then maybe you have an argument but trying to knock the guy for doing his job (stopping shots) is an odd argument.
 

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