WHOneedsSOX
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Confirmed with Link: Kings aquire Bishop, 2017 5th rd pk for Budaj , Erik Cernak, 7th & cond pick
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You're overreacting quite a bit to a minor trade three days before the deadline.
Ziggy Stardust
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Who was the last second rounder this team selected that turned into a player?
Haven't posted in here all year but I have to get some thoughts off my chest and where better to rant than here.
This has to be Lombardi's last year, there's no way he stays past. I love what he's done, I mean, by far the best GM we've ever had and I've been a major supporter of his from the beginning. Enough is enough; time to move on.
The Mike Richards and Jeff Carter trades helped us massively in the 2 stanley cups but what the **** is he doing lately? This is the THIRD trade in the past 2 years he's dealt a high-prospect defenseman for an expiring contract.
McKeown dealt for Sekera (signed with Edmonton)
Colin Miller dealt for Lucic (signed with Edmonton)
Roland Mckeown was a 2nd round pick
Colin Miller was a 5th round pick but played so well for the Monarchs when he was there.
Okay, sure, we have LaDue, Forbort, Gravel, Clague and others but I'd much rather use Cernak in a trade for a forward - Not a backup G, who we clearly won't re-sign at the end of the year. And why make this deal now and not earlier?
From what I've read from Mayor and Dennis Bernstein, Lombardi's contract is up this off-season and he'll be let go. Should've happened to Sutter last summer, imo. Time to move on from both of them. Thank you so much from what you've done, like I said, best coach & GM in franchise history but enough is enough.
This has to be Lombardi's last year, there's no way he stays past. I love what he's done, I mean, by far the best GM we've ever had and I've been a major supporter of his from the beginning. Enough is enough; time to move on.
The Mike Richards and Jeff Carter trades helped us massively in the 2 stanley cups but what the **** is he doing lately? This is the THIRD trade in the past 2 years he's dealt a high-prospect defenseman for an expiring contract.
McKeown dealt for Sekera (signed with Edmonton)
Colin Miller dealt for Lucic (signed with Edmonton)
Roland Mckeown was a 2nd round pick
Colin Miller was a 5th round pick but played so well for the Monarchs when he was there.
Okay, sure, we have LaDue, Forbort, Gravel, Clague and others but I'd much rather use Cernak in a trade for a forward - Not a backup G, who we clearly won't re-sign at the end of the year. And why make this deal now and not earlier?
From what I've read from Mayor and Dennis Bernstein, Lombardi's contract is up this off-season and he'll be let go. Should've happened to Sutter last summer, imo. Time to move on from both of them. Thank you so much from what you've done, like I said, best coach & GM in franchise history but enough is enough.
KingsFan7824
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I don't get what's bad about the deal. In theory, they get the better goalie. They get the higher pick. If the conditions are met, who cares what the other pick is. Cernak, well it'll go either way right? If ends up as nothing, Lombardi made a bad pick. If he ends up as something, Lombardi made a bad deal.
I think something else is coming down.
Doesn't make sense for Tampa to retain $1,190,000. The Kings still have over $3,100,000 in deadline space. If this was the only trade, there would have been no need for Tampa to retain and thus have the Kings pay more for that retention.
there has to be something else.
Doesn't make sense for Tampa to retain $1,190,000. The Kings still have over $3,100,000 in deadline space. If this was the only trade, there would have been no need for Tampa to retain and thus have the Kings pay more for that retention.
there has to be something else.
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The Sky Is Falling lmao! 
Let's see what DL is up to til Wed before the end of the world riots lol
Let's see what DL is up to til Wed before the end of the world riots lol
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OK, I'll be 100% honest, I got Cernak and Clague mixed-up. So while it still makes no sense, it's no where near as bad as I originally thought
KingsFan7824
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Maybe Cernak doesn't have a ton of value? But that would be a bad pick then. But Futa is the head scout. He's the guy people wish was the next GM. Hmm.
Have you seen what McKeown is doing this year? Basically nothing. Miller hasn't been a top 4 guy for Boston yet. Certainly not consistently.
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Quick hasn't played since opening night. It's in case he gets hurt again. That's all it is.
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Todd McLellan is an inside agent
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I'm not opposed at all to the Kings trading away more future assets to go for it all RIGHT NOW.
So if this move is in conjunction with more/bigger moves coming, then I like it. However, if this is the only significant move they make, then I'm opposed.
Go all in, or don't go at all.
So if this move is in conjunction with more/bigger moves coming, then I like it. However, if this is the only significant move they make, then I'm opposed.
Go all in, or don't go at all.
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Raccoon Jesus
Todd McLellan is an inside agent
a backup, a last round pick, and a prospect you hate for a HIGHER pick and a legit #1 vezina finalist goalie is a LONG way from this.
I'm bummed about Cernak, I liked him, but how many prospect D can we have?
kovacro
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Yes. If they are able to negotiate a contract with him during the window prior to the expansion draft taking place, he would then count as the selection from LA.
I think maybe Deano had an eye on this as an option going forward. Vegas probably has some interest in Bishop so it becomes another option if Vegas does indeed sign him. We'll see what happens in June.
Atleast we got a 5th, is it conditional?
I won't pretend to make an observation on Cernak as I have yet to see him play so hopefully someone else with some knowledge on his game will chime in.
Budaj did one heck of a job, hat tip to him and good luck in Tampa.
WHOneedsSOX
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That makes more sense then. Trade isn't looking as bad as I initially thought. I agree, I know nothing about Cernak. Could he be a replacement for Muzzin/Martinez when their contracts run out? I don't know that.
kovacro
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a backup, a last round pick, and a prospect you hate for a HIGHER pick and a legit #1 vezina finalist goalie is a LONG way from this.
I'm bummed about Cernak, I liked him, but how many prospect D can we have?
Just like in baseball, they say you can never have enough pitching, I'd say in hockey, you can never have enough prospects on the back end. It's such a hard position to try to get top end defenseman and it's very difficult to trade for them so it's always good to have an arsenal of them to see if you can have one or two work out for you. See Anaheim, they are loaded and I'm sure it's envious to many rival clubs.
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