Rumor: Kevin Weekes Reports Allen Could Be Signed to Multi-Year Deal

[Runner77]

Price is off fishing on the coast of Robidas island.

Island was vacant until its most recent occupant, Weber, was jettisoned.

Price will make a fine inhabitant.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

I'm as much a fan of portmanteau words as the next guy, but "pluriannuel" is just too much and it sounds Orwellian AF.

 

[1909]

Would 10M$ for three seasons enough ?

 

[Mandala]

Would 10M$ for three seasons enough ?

Why do this? Play Primeau next year and be done with it. Makes no sense to keep Allen long term unless he backs up Primeau or another goalie next year.

 

[jrom]

Why do this? Play Primeau next year and be done with it. Makes no sense to keep Allen long term unless he backs up Primeau or another goalie next year.

Habs are gonna try various young goalies in the future, Allen is perfect as a complement: good veteran, won’t complain about young D since he wants to be there through the rebuild, will be reliable, already won his cup, etc.

HuGo has enough problems to fix without creating new ones. If they know they have Allen + “random young goalie” for the next 3 years, it a good enough and will give them time to address this.

If we trade Allen (for a 2nd rounder ?), it’s not gonna be easy to find another veteran goalie willing to have that role.

 

[Riggins]

I'm guessing 3.75M per x 2 years for the extension. He'll get a raise for sure, he's being signed as the starter not the backup anymore.

 

[Treb]

Why do this? Play Primeau next year and be done with it. Makes no sense to keep Allen long term unless he backs up Primeau or another goalie next year.

Primeau will need an experienced vet to help him. Allen is well liked by the team, buys in the philosophy and can play platoon with Primeau next year.

 

[Chili]

This could be his last significant contract. And the way ufa goaltenders were gobbled up quickly this summer, if he's healthy there would definitely be interest next summer. Would think if the Habs want to keep him it will cost.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

Barf if true. Mediocre players don’t need to be extended to long term deals early. I see no reasoning o even consider this atm.

 

[salbutera]

Barf if true. Mediocre players don’t need to be extended to long term deals early. I see no reasoning o even consider this atm.

Competitiveness - HuGo want a solid backup in place, and will actively seek a replacement starter should Price actually have played his last game

There will be a full throttle push for playoffs next season (23-24)

 

[Runner77]

Competitiveness - HuGo want a solid backup in place, and will actively seek a replacement starter should Price actually have played his last game

There will be a full throttle push for playoffs next season (23-24)

Full throttle? How?

With a bunch of rookies and that remaining deadwood on extended contracts? Too soon.

 

[Indca]

Full throttle? How?

With a bunch of rookies and that remaining deadwood on extended contracts? Too soon.

Well players off from this team come next season: Dadonov, Monahan, Droiun, Byron that's at least $20M salary players going off the team and we can sign more free agents or trade with that money.

This is the last year of sell off and I see Hugo pushing for competitive if not playoff team next year.

 

[Runner77]

Well players off from this team come next season: Dadonov, Monahan, Droiun, Byron that's at least $20M salary players going off the team and we can sign more free agents or trade with that money.

This is the last year of sell off and I see Hugo pushing for competitive if not playoff team next year.

There is no bona fide no. 1 goalie. There is no developed 1st pairing PMD on the right side, Hoffman, Armia, Alzner will still be on the books next year (Armia is useless and has 2 more years after this season).

Gallagher is grossly overpaid at 6.5M and broken down, with another 5 years to go on his deal. Matheson at almost $5 Million has 3 more years after this season — not sure what he brings. Do they really need Dvorak or a lesser paid reasonable facsimile?

Still too much cap space used inefficiently. And Caufield will get major money when he turns RFA after next season.

Fans have accepted the rebuild and Hughes has shown great acumen in making progressively advantageous deals. Why rush when there will likely still be a lot of shrapnel left over from the prior regime into next season (barring whatever Hughes can come up with before then)?

 

[Scintillating10]

Primeau will need an experienced vet to help him. Allen is well liked by the team, buys in the philosophy and can play platoon with Primeau next year.

I disagree. Emphasis should be on Bedard. Allen extension is a patch up job. A good backup is available every off season. You going to regret not making your best effort for Bedard.

 

[nhlfan9191]

There is no bona fide no. 1 goalie. There is no developed 1st pairing PMD on the right side, Hoffman, Armia, Alzner will still be on the books next year (Armia is useless and has 2 more years after this season).

Gallagher is grossly overpaid at 6.5M and broken down, with another 5 years to go on his deal. Matheson at almost $5 Million has 3 more years after this season — not sure what he brings. Do they really need Dvorak or a lesser paid reasonable facsimile?

Still too much cap space used inefficiently. And Caufield will get major money when he turns RFA after next season.

Fans have accepted the rebuild and Hughes has shown great acumen in making progressively advantageous deals. Why rush when there will likely still be a lot of shrapnel left over from the prior regime into next season (barring whatever Hughes can come up with before then)?

It’s a mess. A big stink in mess. Price being finished has become a blessing in disguise because our contract and cap situation is literally going to take the first 2-3 years of HuGo’s tenure just to somehow try and normalize things again. At least there’s a bit of hope with some of the dead weight starting to come off the books next season. I just want to know what the hell Bergevin and company’s plans were to get themselves out of the mess they created had they not been fired.

 

[Beendair Donedat]

It’s a mess. A big stink in mess. Price being finished has become a blessing in disguise because our contract and cap situation is literally going to take the first 2-3 years of HuGo’s tenure just to somehow try and normalize things again. At least there’s a bit of hope with some of the dead weight starting to come off the books next season. I just want to know what the hell Bergevin and company’s plans were to get themselves out of the mess they created had they not been fired.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

There is no bona fide no. 1 goalie. There is no developed 1st pairing PMD on the right side, Hoffman, Armia, Alzner will still be on the books next year (Armia is useless and has 2 more years after this season).

Gallagher is grossly overpaid at 6.5M and broken down, with another 5 years to go on his deal. Matheson at almost $5 Million has 3 more years after this season — not sure what he brings. Do they really need Dvorak or a less paid reasonable facsimile?

Still too much cap space used inefficiently. And Caufield will get major money when he turns RFA after next season.

Fans have accepted the rebuild and Hughes has shown great acumen in making progressively advantageous deals. Why rush when there will likely still be a lot of shrapnel left over from the prior regime into next season (barring whatever Hughes can come up with before then)?

Still way too much dead cap space and we will likely be unable to benefit greatly from ELC players overachieving at bargain prices during our competitive window. That ship has sailed with Caufield/Suzuki

 

[BehindTheTimes]

Competitiveness - HuGo want a solid backup in place, and will actively seek a replacement starter should Price actually have played his last game

There will be a full throttle push for playoffs next season (23-24)

Allen isn’t good enough to be a starter and meh on a backup. You don’t need to lock them up early on multi year extensions. I don’t like the idea here,at some point we’ve got to give our prospects a chance to be involved on the big club too. Allen is so not a game changer that his signing is just not important.

It’s a mess. A big stink in mess. Price being finished has become a blessing in disguise because our contract and cap situation is literally going to take the first 2-3 years of HuGo’s tenure just to somehow try and normalize things again. At least there’s a bit of hope with some of the dead weight starting to come off the books next season. I just want to know what the hell Bergevin and company’s plans were to get themselves out of the mess they created had they not been fired.

They had no plan for 10 years. What makes you think they had a plan to address this?

 

[WeThreeKings]

Allen isn't good enough to be a starter and meh on a backup. You don't need to lock them up early on multi year extensions. I don't like the idea here, at some point we've got to give our prospects a chance to be involved on the big club too. Allen is so not a game changer that his signing is just not important.


They had no plan for 10 years. What makes you think they had a plan to address this?

Allen is signing up to be the veteran back-up when the prospects are ready to take over. You can't just throw Primeau and the prospects to the wolves and start them night in and night out if they aren't ready.

Allen is insurance and a known locker room commodity.

 

[BaseballCoach]

Allen is signing up to be the veteran back-up when the prospects are ready to take over. You can't just throw Primeau and the prospects to the wolves and start them night in and night out if they aren't ready.

Allen is insurance and a known locker room commodity.

Fair point, but the extension wouyld have to be cheap and between 1-2 years, with 3 years done only at a nice discount so as not to handcuff the cap management in 2025-26.

Personally, I would be ok with 2 years at $2.5M or so, or even better 1 more year at $2.875M

 

[WeThreeKings]

Fair point, but the extension wouyld have to be cheap and between 1-2 years, with 3 years done only at a nice discount so as not to handcuff the cap management in 2025-26.

Personally, I would be ok with 2 years at $2.5M or so, or even better 1 more year at $2.875M

The dollar amount is really my sticking point.. don't really want it to be more than low 3s.

2 years would be preferable as well, gives us 3 years of veteran presences and plenty of time for the Primeau, Dobes and Dichow experiences to unfold.

 

[salbutera]

Allen isn’t good enough to be a starter and meh on a backup. You don’t need to lock them up early on multi year extensions. I don’t like the idea here,at some point we’ve got to give our prospects a chance to be involved on the big club too. Allen is so not a game changer that his signing is just not important.

Who is that goalie prospect that Allen is keeping from getting a chance exactly? Primeau is a borderline NHLer at this point, even after multiple AHL seasons.

Allen is 32, he isn’t getting a 5-year deal to resign. It’ll be a 2-3 year deal.

BTW - Allen for his career has excellent numbers when he’s limited to 35GP. He’s an elite modern day backup not some scrub

 

[JoelWarlord]

Allen's not going to prevent any prospect from getting playing time. He'll be the starter paired with Montembeault for now and the second a prospect is ready for the NHL they'll move on from Montembeault and shift to a 1a/1b tandem.

 

[Guy Larose]

We need a goalie plain and simple, what don't people get? It's not rocket science.

 

[Tyson]

Montembeault qui est un goaler ordinaire écopera c'est tout.



Avec un peu de chance Armia rebondira un brin et si la masse monte il pourrait trouver preneur , on parle de 3.4 le prix d'un joueur de 3ème trios il est pas payé comme un top 6 mais le 3 ans de contrat complique les choses c'est évident.

That Armia contract for what he brings is absolutely horrendous. What the hell was Bergevin thinking?