Thirty One
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One of those they traded for another top 6 center, so...
Player Discussion Kevin Hayes
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This summer continues to be a massive disappointment. Just horrible player management. Horrible execution. We’ll get a b prospect who will prob a lefty D and the 29th overall pick for him as a rental.
How do you blow this summer this badly.
How do you blow this summer this badly.
Harbour Dog
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Man, is Hayes ever underrated.
If the guy we seen last year is who he is going to be, then there is a very real chance that neither Andersson nor Howden ever become as good as him; and we're most likely going to trade him prematurely for some reason.
If the guy we seen last year is who he is going to be, then there is a very real chance that neither Andersson nor Howden ever become as good as him; and we're most likely going to trade him prematurely for some reason.
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Kendo
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Sure, the brass has high hopes for our two hot prospect centers, but there is also the lingering possibility of Seguin to consider. There's more than one angle at play.
Irishguy42
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I'm sorry, but I just don't believe anyone here really has the evidence to say that confidently.
Machinehead
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A signed Hayes would return that, not a rental Hayes.
You can always trade him later if you don't think he's part of plans and get a lot more for a signed player.
We're so god damn sure Chytil and Andersson are the future of the franchise that we're desperate to get Hayes off the team.
Horrible asset management and Rangers arrogance as usual.
FireGerardGallant
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They Traded Brassard for a better version of Brassard. In terms of the Stepan deal we shall see how it turns out
Machinehead
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Assuming this team can walk and chew gum at the same time is not a safe assumption.
He should have been dealt for a real return a month ago and wasn’t. We missed the window and now we’re stuck In no mans land with him. Just brutal
Thirty One
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You should teach them how to be humble in your opinions.
FireGerardGallant
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Machinehead
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Doesn't matter how the trade turns out. Throwing around top 6 centers like candy on Halloween is bad management.
Cup-winning teams are generally overloaded at that position.
NYRFAN218
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I do wonder how much they think a big contract (ex. 6/36) would hinder his trade value especially if he plateaus. Remember, beyond Arizona the market was pretty desolate for Stepan at 4 x 6.5 remaining. Food for thought.
Machinehead
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He was handpicked and trained by Sather to take the job. It's the same regime.
That "emerging" rental market worries me. Right now some of the guys who stand one year to UFA include Pacioretty, Seguin, Skinner, Duchesne, MZA and Hayes. Depending on how many of those guys make it to February, that market could be glutted. I expect Seguin will be resolved before then but I have no idea about the other guys. I wouldn't go counting on those low firsts just yet.
If I'm GMJG, I'm looking to move my assets sooner rather than later.
If I'm GMJG, I'm looking to move my assets sooner rather than later.
Chaels Arms
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It's surprising to me that in a league where it's extremely hard to find serviceable centers the Rangers decided they were going to play hardball with Kevin Hayes. He has been an exceptionally efficient producer his entire career. He took on a more defensive oriented role last season despite being a strong offensive producer his entire career and did well in that role and even continued to produce well offensively, all with almost no PP time. A lot of players would not have handled that assignment as well as Hayes did, especially since there's a valid argument that he shouldn't have been forced into that role in the first place given how the team performed and his own skillset and history.
I'd rather have signed Hayes to a decent long term deal. If Chytil and Andersson force him out then that just becomes one of those "good problems." Hayes would still be an asset and you would likely still be able to garner just as much in a trade with him signed to term then we will on this one year deal. That's assuming absolutely none of these players can succeed on the wing which is itself a pretty big assumption. What happens if Zibanejad gets injured? Why are so many willing to pencil Chytil and Andersson into major NHL minutes right off the bat? I would have rather watched them steal minutes from a legitimate, established NHL center then get forced in.
I'd rather have signed Hayes to a decent long term deal. If Chytil and Andersson force him out then that just becomes one of those "good problems." Hayes would still be an asset and you would likely still be able to garner just as much in a trade with him signed to term then we will on this one year deal. That's assuming absolutely none of these players can succeed on the wing which is itself a pretty big assumption. What happens if Zibanejad gets injured? Why are so many willing to pencil Chytil and Andersson into major NHL minutes right off the bat? I would have rather watched them steal minutes from a legitimate, established NHL center then get forced in.
It's likely that Hayes will be moved sometime before the deadline, which I am not a fan of. When are the Rangers allowed to talk to Hayes about a possible contract extension? January 1st? I know Hayes desperately wants to remain a Ranger. Him, Vesey, and Sjkei are very close friends. Although unlikely, maybe Gorton is signing this 1 year contract to see how Howden, Chytil, and Andersson work out. And see if any can excel on the wing, and then reevaluate later?
Fitzy
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They tend to be overloaded with 1st line quality centers rather than 2nd line quality.
The Pens dealt Jordan Staal, The hawks traded Bolland, the Caps traded Johansson. Middle 6 centers sometimes get traded, even away from competing teams.
Bob Richards
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I know its not news that rosters don't stick because of the cap but goddamn @ how much turnover we'eve seen since the President's Trophy.
RIP Hayes. I will also think fondly of our time whenever I catch a smell of that loud.
RIP Hayes. I will also think fondly of our time whenever I catch a smell of that loud.
Machinehead
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This. All of this.
For a franchise that particularly has trouble finding centers, they treat good centers like a disease.
If other players force Hayes out, play that card when you draw it. Right now, we're nowhere even close to that. But the Rangers just assume their plans will go exactly as they predicted because this FO is arrogant.
Calad
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He certainly looked better last year, but i cant count the number of times where i thought the kid has rocks between his ears
Irishguy42
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Correct. Because it's a one year deal, they can't negotiate an extension until January 1st.
Oscar Lindberg
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f***ing idiots
Gonna get pennies on the dollar for him
Gonna get pennies on the dollar for him
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