Proposal: Kessel to Dallas
- Thread starter Dipsy Doodle
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Beddy Tlueger
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these teams aren't good trading partners. PIT C depth is Sid, Geno, Brassard and Sheahan. So PIT gives up their PPG+ Winger in order to get a 4C as the main piece coming back? Brutal.
"cheaper for trade" i mean, 1st + hintz + oettinger + some shit + radulov as a drinker partner in dallas bars could be enough
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Beddy Tlueger
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Their production is very similar.
Rather have Kessel at 6.8 than Panarin at 8-9 mil.
Panarin has age going for him though. Kessel is 30.
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Beddy Tlueger
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Would he? Can't imagine CBJ is trading Panarin for cheap...definitely not for Faksa and a 1st.
that's debatable what would your offers be for Panarin w/ extension vs w/o? CBJ needs a 1C
lol, CBJ will never get 1C for panarin, faksa/turris/haula/same centers is maximum
+ picks + minors + ets
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Beddy Tlueger
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Then I doubt they trade him. Faksa ain't even moving the needle for CBJ. Turris+ probably would, as he is a 55 point good #2 C.
I’m really wondering what’s left for you to think you could grab Pacioretty? Honka, that’s pretty much the only thing left for a player of that caliber (pending 1st is out, Faksa N/A, 1st 2018 draftee won’t move, Heiskanen N/A)
Legit curious...
Faksa+picks+prospects is the deal that is proposed in the OP, how is that cheaper? Who are the picks and prospects on top of that?
PensPlz
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Phil put up 92 points last year and with a couple of really good playoff performances (one of which people still argue was robbed of the Smythe). There is not a single sign of him slowing down. If Kessel was a UFA this year then he would have been signed for 9 million with some team.
But he's at 6.8 thanks to Toronto.
People sticking their noises up at Phil Kessel are hilarious.
But this is fine with me cause I don't want him traded lol
But he's at 6.8 thanks to Toronto.
People sticking their noises up at Phil Kessel are hilarious.
But this is fine with me cause I don't want him traded lol
66-30-33
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Not only is Kessel a 6.8M cap hit, he's also one of the best playoff players in the NHL. Rather keep him tbh.
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Empoleon8771
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This seems like a really mediocre return for the Penguins. Like I'd actually be pissed if Kessel got traded for this, and I'm someone who has been very open to trading Kessel.
Dipsy Doodle
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It is, but if you flip both 2019 1sts to Carolina for Skinner - an understanding that would have to be a prerequisite for this deal - I think it really does make the team better and gives us some extra depth moving forward.
Empoleon8771
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I don't think you can justify a crappy return with another unrelated move. I'd also rather not trade Kessel and a 1st for Faksa, Skinner and a mediocre forward prospect.
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Dipsy Doodle
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Just give it some thought. It might sit better after a little time haha.
Faksa's 24 years old, plays LW and C, won 51% of his draws last year, played 1:50 SHTOI/G, scored 17 goals and 33 points despite only 33% OZ starts, and he's signed through '19-'20 at 2.2 mil per, after which he's still an RFA. He gives us built-in insurance after Brass and Sheahan move on to greener pastures.
Skinner's 5 years younger than Kessel, has exactly the same number of EV points over the past 3 seasons, and almost guaranteed won't cost more than Kessel's present deal to re-sign.
Hintz isn't anything remarkable, but he's a decent LW with size and speed drafted in the 2nd round who isn't waiver-eligible until '20-'21, so he has time to develop here. He's probably not too far off from what we'd be picking in the late 1st.
