Taupy said:Phil Kessel
I can't believe it... he's an alcohol drinker
Rabid Ranger said:Which doesn't take away from the fact that these kids were involved in an activity that's against the law.
Hasbro said:It's times like this I wish the rolleyes smiley was also making the wanking motion.
GregStack said:Have you ever sped?
Walked when the hand was flashing at you?
J-Walked?
I'm willing to put everything I own on the line that says you've done one of those things.
"...involved in an activity against the law." yeah, that's right they were. They broke the law...oh no...give them their underage drinking fine...ban them from the pub...cut the pub's liquor license. That'll teach them.
Better yet, suspend the soon to be #1 in the draft for the remainder of the season.
Rabid Ranger said:Overreacting a bit? I was just point out that a law's a law and flaunting isn't a good idea.
rt said:Flaunting? I thought they were HIDDEN cameras.
rt said:Pffft...
Wild GM said:http://www.kmsp.com/news/investigators/story.asp?1650014
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"The Fox 9 Investigators uncover underage drinking by at least five players on the Golden Gopher men's hockey team.
It takes place at Blarney Pub and Grill, in the heart of Dinkytown near the U of M campus.
Starting Thursday night, Dinkytown becomes party town, and the alcohol flows 'til last call at 2:00 a.m. Monday morning.
Blarney Pub and Grill is a popular hot spot, where a lot of booze is poured, and among the many students drinking it are members of the University of Minnesota men's hockey team.
A team ranked number one at the start of the season, predicted by some to win the 2006 national title.
But there's a problem: over the course of 2 months, the Fox 9 Investigators videotaped 8 underage hockey players inside Blarney Pub and Grill.
Of those 8, 5 of them are drinking alcohol.
That means they're breaking laws, and violating the NCAA's policy on alcohol, which says underage drinking by student athletes is unacceptable.
The Fox 9 Investigators spent six weekends undercover inside and outside of Blarney Pub and Grill, shooting 50-hours of surveillance tape with our hidden cameras.
The video we shot of the underage drinkers is now being investigated by the University of Minnesota."
fatsunny said:Whether or not "everyone" is doing it or not is not a good reason to do or not to do something. The question is whether or not it breaks team rules and society's rules, which by the way, are relevant. Someone stated if you don't like the rules, work to change them and that is true and the American way. I hardly think we can expect to hear Coach Lucia saying to the press, "well most all college kids drink, no big deal". Hah, he would get fired on the spot.
An old friend of mine lives in the bushes today, a complete alcoholic. He drank a lot in H.S. and also in college. This is no joke. This guy is going to die from alcohol. I've tried to help him to no avail. Many people think it's funny when kids drink, I really don't. I don't overreact to it, but I also wonder which kids won't be able to control it and will have their lives destroyed by it.
VOB said:The law is the law and it is the glue that holds society together. If you disagree with it, you work through legal means to change it! If all thought like you (and many do) then what would stop someone who does not believe in property rights from taking what is legally yours?
Kids drink, that is a fact but these are not your regular college frosh they are D-1 athletes who, like it or not, are held to a higher standard.
Smail said:The glue that holds society together ain't the law, that's ridiculous. It is the collective culture and education. The law is supposed to be based on that, and if it isn't, it's a poor job by the lawmakers, not by the people doing what they think is right.
As to the law, you aren't doing anything "illegal" until you get caught.
Now, regarding this case, it's totally stupid. A prime example of being politically correct. The same kids in Canada could drink all they want without it being a problem. Do those Canadian kids become alcoholics? Are they worse people later on? What about France where kids drink at age under 10?
If anything, the lawmakers and the media should be both embarrassed.
southpaw said:Wow, you have quite the twisted view of society. You aren't doing anything illegal you get caught? Say I kill every one of your close family members. I don't get caught, you never find out who did it. Did I do some illegal? Did I do something against the law? Absolutely yes, and just because this is a minor violation, that doesn't make them any less guilty of doing something illegal.
The problem I have is people jumped to conclusions after they saw the first report by the station. They saw the part of the story where the kids were drinking and thought that that is all there was to the story.
The kids were breaking US, NCAA, and school rules by underage drinking. They were breaking US, NCAA and school rules by just being in the bar. They were breaking NCAA and School rules by getting into the bar for free when non-athletes had to pay. The bar was breaking US rules by letting the underage kids into the bar. They bar owner ws breaking NCAA and school rules by letting the players into the bar for free.
It's not just a story of college athletes drinking. If it was, then I'd have no problem admitting that the story was worthless, but because there is so much more to it, that is why it is a news story.
fatsunny said:Most of you on this thread sound very juvenile, rationalizing under aged drinking. You might not like the law, but it's the law and these kids need to learn to respect it. Athletes are terribly spoiled as a whole with all the attention they get and the freebies and the look aways those in authority give them when they do wrong. Doing that isn't good for their personal human development and I hope the coach takes appropriate action for the best interest of the players involved.
Is it a huge issue at this time? I wouldn't classify it as such, but it's still an issue that can't be glossed over.
macho232 said:Let me guess, you weren't very popular when you were in high school.